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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:27 AM
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Yeah one second MP, let me upload some stuff of the system Ill be putting some swissguard into on saturday. Youtube clip of v1.0 - (On 1.1 now)
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Friday, May 20, 2011 8:15 PM
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So tonight will be day four or five in a row that they will have spawned. It's looking like a ballpark of 50-125 eggs per spawn. Since I do not want to interrupt the spawning sequence, I've done a little water change and saved that water for my ingenious plan: Getting the eggs via suction. I'll literally be hovering over the tank with night goggles on waiting for the spawn, pumps off. Once they do the spawning "break away" I'll attempt to suck out as many eggs as I can into the hatching container. Once they hatch, I've got to hope that my pod cultures (Couple kinds) will be up to snuff in producing naups. To help out I'll be doing a couple plankton tows per day to see if I can add ciliates and other fun stuff in there for the larvae to eat. The neat thing about this container is that I've got an outlet on it already so I can plug it into a system as they get older, hopefully keeping the water quality stable enough so I can hit the elusive meta mark. (Heck if I can go a week on the first batch I'll call that a win!). The fun thing is since they do this every night, I'll continue to add eggs into the mix. I really don't mind if there ends up being cannibalism either - its just more food! Cheers, and may the Fish Lords of Liopropoma smile with me
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:18 AM
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Good luck! Now that they are going, expect them to continue. My cleaner wrasses got up to 3x/day at one point.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, May 23, 2011 9:19 PM
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I did a pretty big clean up of the Biocube - with the amount of food I was tossing in as well as just well, being a stock biocube it needed it. Good news is that it doesn't seem to have phased them - saw a couple eggs floating in there when I checked around midnight. Now here is the dilemma. I picked up a 34G Solana 20x20x20 tank and stand/filter for next to nothing. I'm tempted to put them in there as well as the Pygmy Wrasses, and move L.rubre into the Biocube. I've got the pelagic system up and running (neon gobies) and its looking good. Here is the catch though - I want to actually look at my fish! I think designing an egg collector for the back would be fairly easy (although I'm thinking I might need to expand the water intake, which really shouldn't be all that hard). I know the corners aren't the best for flow (unlike the biocube which has the rounded edges), but I'm hoping if I make the intake or build a surface skimmer for the tank it could work. I'm torn, because I know that the system will work - but I don't have room for both (Solana / Pelagic system). And I'd like to see my fish
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, May 23, 2011 9:27 PM
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I'm confused... Neon gobies as pelagic spawners?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, May 23, 2011 9:46 PM
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Neon gobies as ammonia producers (And the 30lbs of live rock from other tanks). I moved them in a couple days ago. That and I'm trying to see if I can get them to reproduce without me fiddling.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, May 23, 2011 9:48 PM
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Ok, I see.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Sunday, June 5, 2011 6:38 PM
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Some interesting new developments... I'll have more later
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, June 6, 2011 9:43 PM
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So I've got an exam tomorrow and what am I doing at midnight? Looking at cell division. So if my hunch is right (missed the pair in the act tonight) then well... lets just say there are captive bred candy basslets right around the corner.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, June 6, 2011 9:55 PM
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Forgot to add - I've built a mini photo collage of the first hour of life via microscope. I'll get those up tomorrow evening. Maybe even show off some more stuff too
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, June 6, 2011 10:11 PM
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Sounds great!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Tuesday, June 7, 2011 7:21 AM
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Cool! Now you are about ready to start the hard part.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Wednesday, June 8, 2011 11:46 AM
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Taken from about 20 minutes to about 1.5 hours post spawn. Realllly slow development. On the latest batch I'm coming up on 48 hours tonight. I need to put a heater in the BRT (temp is about 77/78 now) to see if I can't bump it up to 80 and hopefully increase the growth rate a bit. After working with some other fish in school one or two degrees can make a week or more difference on growth. I might even try 81/82 to see if that helps. So thats about an hours worth of pics above, I might have screwed the order up a bit. For some reason my microscope never keeps the date/time right. Oh and here is a new spawning video...with the smaller female nudging the male... possible sequential hermaphrodites? Also the male got the "I swallowed a marble" belly two days ago. Without actually seeing who can do what it will be a guess as to whats going on.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:57 PM
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Nice work Brett! How did you keep the egg wet for that long? Did you keep adding water, or was it on a covered slide?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:09 PM
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Kept adding a drop or two of water every couple minutes. I figured that was the easiest way with what I was working with.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Wednesday, June 8, 2011 9:15 PM
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Its getting better - egg counts are going up. 105 collected tonight. Not bad from three weeks ago when there was 40-60 per night!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Saturday, June 11, 2011 9:05 PM
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Had a HUGE spawn tonight. I shattered the old mark of 105 with close to 300 tonight! Interesting to note, they didn't spawn for the past two nights. Probably because I moved some rock around, reducing the amount of "open" space for them to have a rise. Fixed that issue earlier today and poof - they spawned. Trying a new method of raising the eggs, hoping to break the 72 hour mark. I've got first foods lined up, so there is no issue there. (100k of parvolacanus and 50k of tonsa). Thanks Algagen!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, July 18, 2011 2:36 PM
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So I've been letting these guys go for a couple months now. I'm still stuck on the 72 hours, I just can't get them past this period of time. I've tried Kriesels, BRTs, Tanks, cups, fish holders, the works. The'll hatch then I'll just find the prolarvae on the bottom of whatever dead. I've tried UV Sterilizers with a super lol flow (for bacteria control), fresh ASW, old ASW, broodstock tank water and still nothing. So I went back and looked at the feed the parents were getting. 4-5 of different types of pellets, live shrimp (various kinds) frozen mysis, brine, clams. Enriched with selco and unenriched. That magic 72 hour mark is driving me insane. Any ideas?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, July 18, 2011 4:15 PM
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Could try various lighting scenarios?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, July 18, 2011 6:13 PM
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Your story sounds similar to my pigmy angels drama.And probably solutions will be also similar.I was also thinking to try UV or O3 against bacteriae.Or trying NSW,just in case some unknown factor was missing.
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