Breeding Journal, Species: [Amp Percula / Amp Ocellaris]

You can switch over to the frozen stuff after they've grown a bit. The frozen is too big at this stage.

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First appearence of head stripes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cydDd8r-6A
 
Is there a big problem that the fry dont eat all the artemia nauplli in the first 24 hours in the tank? can they grow a bit and cause block or choaking probs?

The artemia nauplii lose their nutritional value rather quickly and grow too big to be eaten. 

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ahh i see. So gonna colect the uneaten ones with a artemia net and throw some newly hatched.
 
Here is a lateral side video of my babies: Think they are postmeta?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=B_vqFRraHSE
 
They started to form 1 or 2 school and are hanging together in a corner or near the thermometer, so nice, im so happy.
 
Trying to by the hobbyst breeder pack of TDO so they grow strong and colourful
 

very nice records you keep, i know it takes alot of time to do that.. congrats on your babies

Ty for your nice words Ocea.
 
One more video on the morning of 9 DPH, where we can see lots of them with first stripe on ther heads. 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?edit=vd&v=d1diqLmIWgU
i Know it´s normal they start to form schools of fish and being very near one to each others. They formed 2 or 3 schools, but i do nnot know if it´s normal they standing near the glass, why is it?
 
When can i take the black papers covering the sides?
 

Are those rotifers in the water? If so, you can let them die off as all the juveniles should be eating the cyclopeeze by now. They are orienting themselves in a way that positions them in the path food is going. You can change that by placing 1 airstone against the side of the tank. The water will flow up, across the surface and down the other side. This should get them out away from the sides. 
  
My tanks are painted black so...  

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Love those first stripes Congrats!

Michelle  
 

10th day all still going well.
 
I wonder what color will be the clowns when they grow up? Will they seem like mother percula or like father ocellaris? Or a mixture?
 
another video with a overall view of my working zone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoPR7glNFpw&feature=plcp
 

very nice pair, that onyx female is pretty big....

A video with the evolution from spawn to 12 th day. Hope you enjoy. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-8w7X-dHWc

They are now eating well the crushed flakes from Ocen Nutrition, while still waiting for my tdo breeding Pack to arrive from USA.
I have my nitrites with 20pp, trying to get it down with 30% change of wter daily.
Put a sponge filter yesterday, so i think will get better.
2 big schools of them as you can see in this 15DPH video of my " Percularis "
Any advices or critics are welcome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3kU1p8yJGM

Hi, i ordered the TDO breeder Pack from mariculture, and it should be here in two days from now.
 Can you give me a time frame of when you go from A to B's, B1 to B2 etc? I think as they are day 16 today, i should go for b1 or even b2, what do you say? I ask because i prefer not to open the smaller sizes and just keep it closed in refrigerator for a longer life in good conditions.

I start A around days 5-7. Move on to B1 around day 12-15. B2 after 3 weeks. These are averages as each batch will grow at slightly different rates. I base which food I use on the size of the fish.  Just add a tiny bit to see if they will eat the larger size when transitioning.

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Ok thanks again Fishtal for the precious and always present opinio.
 
Most probably i´ll stick to B1, and after a few days to B2.

Hi,
 
I got a dead fish today, and im not sure what cause him to end like that. I have my tank at 1.022 and temp around 78, 80 Fº. Nitrites are a litle high  - between 20-30 ppm. I ve already put 2x filter sponges to see if it comes down but till now no results. I do not think it was bad water to kill him, orelse more wil be dead too. I notice oone fish last night standing alone and swimming in the surface. I think was the one i found dead now.
For getting nitrites down im thinking on getimg my density do 1.024, and continuing doing a daily 30% water change. What do you say?? please give me some directions here. Here ´s 2 photos of the fish dead - he had around 0,95 mm wich i think it´s normal and ok for 16 days of life.  
 

 

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It's not uncommon to lose a fish after settlement. I wouldn't be too concerned as long as it's only one.

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just like tal said, sometimes you end up with a couple dead ones after everything settles, did you notice any of them fighting cause they usually kill off the smaller ones , or at least with me they do...

Well this one is not one of the smaller ones, but yes i´ve been seing some duel fights over last days. Do tou think 20,30 ppm of nitrites is not such a big prob?

how often are you doing water changes on those babies?? shouldn't be too high to kill them at the range.. 

Well, last few days, since day 12 or so, i´ve been changing 30% ( 2,5 Gallons  of the water, replacing with broodstock water ( nitrites are near 0 ).
 
If you say that nitrites at 20-30 ppm shouldnt be a real problem i think i will wait the beneficial bacteria at sponges filters to make their jobs, and the water will get cicled soon, what do you think?
 
Shall i start to use natural seawater now instead of broodstock? We have good quality here. When i move them to growout tank, wich i will be doing on 30 day, im thinking on going for that kind of natural water.

It probably wouldn't hurt to start using new water for them at this stage.

Ok, ill go and pick some fresh water at sea, make some tests just in case, and start imediatly to do water changes with it , instead of broodstock water.

I would hesitate to use natural sea water without filtering it. You never know what kinds of pests may be in the water.

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Ok, I will pass it thorought a 200 microns mesh when collecting and after in a 55 micron when droping it to growout tank. Beside im thinking on doing some tests to the water, and maybe puting some UV Lamp  to work in the tank.
Finaly got my hands a few minutes ago in the TDO breeder Pack. This afternoon will feed them and see how it goes.
 
IS IT normal in day 19th they still be in 2 big schools in rear bottom corners, and not to swim around the tank even when geting feed? When are they suposed to swim to other parts of the tank?

Gave them TDO B 1 and B2 and they love it. I think that TDO B1 is a litle small cause they eated the B2 without any prob. Here you can see them eating it at 19th day.
 
Do you see a problem on puting some caulerpa prolifera in their tank?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn4iBFGZklM

I put macro algae in my tanks. C prolifera may be a good one because you can still vacuum around it. The Caulerpa genera has some risks, so dont let it grow in too large of a mass? Be sure to dip it first....
 
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PS: You fish are perfect! Great video!

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yup great vid and clowns look happy.... congrats

Well, tks for your kindly words. Im worried cause my nitrites are geting dangerously high. This morning they were at 50-60 ppm, red in test scale. Im now doing a major 50% water change. I do not undesrtand why they are so high. I clean 2x day the tank, siphon food , detritus etc, but they are geting up? Why is that? The fish never get to the middle of the tank and i read yest night in Hoff´s book that it can mean that the fish are in stress probably by bad water condition.
Ill check nitrites after. Im running 2x sponge filter, and only feeding tdo now. I siphon the uneaten food right after they eat.. What can i do more to get them down?
Besides that fish are eating well and seem ok but.. Im realy nervous, and i hope they dont get ill with all this.
Advices?

Here it is the 3 week video, where you can see that they formed 2 big groups, one each corner and they stay there all the time. At least they eat TDO like crazy!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573ORtAsVuY
  
 

I think i found the origin of the high nitrites, and it was all my fault.
I think i shouldnt have put in my sponge filters when i was still feeeding artemia cause most probably some got sucked in the filter sponge , died and where polluting the water. I took out yest one of the filters and the other i washed him very well. Will mantain the water changes and test again to see if they are droping.

LOL Fishtal you were right, the JBL damn test was wrong.... Tested with two other brand and the result was nitrites = 0..
Nitrates - 0
So everything is going well, no deaths.
 
I just do not understand why they are still in two big groups and do not swim to the middle of the tank, and pass all the time near the corner, not moving away from that place.

Good to hear you figured out what was up. Don't worry too much about how the fish are behaving. At this point you should be well past the danger point.  

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Nice video!

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One more video of the 25th day. One is smaller and its isolated cause he gets beaten when aproaches schools. Ugglying Duck!!lol
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwRuEAXNWFo

Not quite as funny or cute as you think.  Isolate the bully or the runt.  They will most likely kill the small one.

I see,
 
I do not have where to isolate him, but he stays in the false anemon and nobody is beating him cause my 2 schools of juveniles stay near corners and dont travel to anemon. However i will be watching the situation. ty

Hi,
 
Move them to growout tank today and all went very well.
 
Had a big surprise when i finaly could count them.
 
212 healthy babies! Im a so proud dad, lol!!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfoAfuuUPIA

Hi, Just to report : today they make 5 weeks and all is 100% ok.
 
Soon ill try to give them the next size of tdo. Here is another video made today:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phj9Ta-JGoM