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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 5:36 PM
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Tal, do me a favor. Take an educated guess at the age of my fish based on your experience. If you scroll down there is a pic of one of her spawns at only 2 months.... most of them have a significant amount of coloring. That is when she sorts them. http://donisreef.com/about.html
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 6:13 PM
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Percs definately stripe slower than occys. I looked all over RC and couldn't find "Woodstock". I did find a Picasso thread that had pics of a 3 month old showing full stipes but not full coloration, pretty cool.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 6:32 PM
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 8, 2009 6:49 PM
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I'm not an expert but I'd say you're proably pretty close with you 6-8 month estimate. A lot depends on diet. One of my percs was known to be 2 yrs old and still about an inch when I got the pair... since I've been feeding them every 4 hours he's grown quite a bit.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 15, 2009 10:29 AM
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Week 8 The broodstock are officially 2 months older than when I first got them. I'm guessing they are now between 6-8 months old. Some of the males might be capable of reproduction at this point so it's time to start fattening the fish up. I've begun feeding mysis and brine shrimp daily in addition to their flake diet. The males are still a little too small for mysis but the females seem to have no trouble chowing down. The alpha pair continues to spend 99% of their time apart. The female will occassionally take a trip out to visit the male, but he has no interest in joining her inside the flower pot. I'm guessing the problem is with the male. It's too early to tell but I have a feeling I might need to replace him down the road if he doesn't show improvement. The beta female is getting fat. Real fat. The beta male is starting to look pretty scrawny but I'm realizing it's just in comparison to her growth spurt. He has become pretty intimidated by her and no longer challenges her authority. They have decided that they are no longer willing to take photos so from here on out it's going to be more tricky to photograph them. The gamma pair is going to be the first to breed, I'd wager on it. They are still a few weeks behind the betas in terms of color and size but these two are acting on mating instincts already. I snapped a couple pics of them behaving as if they were tending an egg clutch. They routinely clean sections of their pot together. The male is beyond the point of just following her around and wants to have constant physical contact with her. He'll swim up to her and nudge different parts of her body. I think they are at least 6-8 months away from their first spawn but these are very encouraging signs. The male continues to do his trick where he plays dead. I'm certain that he is healthy, he just likes to make me nervous. Alpha Female  Alpha Male  Beta Female  Beta Male  Gamma Pair  Gamma Pair  Mako's "Trick" 
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:02 PM
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Week 9 For the first time I witnessed the alpha and beta pairs indicating that they were aware of their neighbors. All four fish congregated along their respective sides of the divider and swam together for a few minutes. It looked to be more of a family reunion then a territorial dispute and none of the fish were displaying any signs of aggression. This could become a problem down the road if either of the pairs feels that the other is encroaching on their territory. I'll keep an eye on it. The alpha female continues to seek out the male and is spending more time outside of the flower pot. Nothing new to report on the beta pair. The gamma female seems to be developing a very pointy chin and the male continues to play dead. But overall the couple looks good. Alpha Female  Alpha Male  Beta Female  Beta Male  Gamma Female  Gamma Male 
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:04 PM
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Great documentation so far..Keep us posted.
Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:42 PM
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 Originally Posted by cmpenney
Great documentation so far..Keep us posted.
Thanks! I think these guys still have a long way to go. I might have to start a breeding journal for my nerite snails. They're breeding all over the place in my reef tank.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:14 PM
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Are they just laying egg? or are you actually getting young snails in your tank?
Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:28 PM
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I have counted dozens of babies that pop up at night. Most of them look like this. 
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:05 PM
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Week 10 The alpha female seems determined to win the affection of the alpha male. I'm starting to think that he has a hidden agenda. The more he ignores her, the more she seems to want to swim in his presence. Good for him. Nothing new with the betas. The gamma male's sore has returned with a vengeance. He continues to rub against the surface of the pot and it's so abrasive that it's actually damaging his body. I took some photos that show what I'm talking about. But besides the minor injury, he appears to be in good spirits and is gaining a little weight. The couple was being pretty playful this evening so I took some photos of them goofing around. Alpha Pair  Beta Male  Beta Male  Beta Female  Gamma Male's Injury  Gamma Male  Gamma Female  Mako bumps Rose  Rose sits on Mako  Good pic of the Gamma's size difference 
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Wednesday, January 6, 2010 11:02 AM
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Week 11 Only two updates this week. The Beta Female ate a record 21 brine shrimp at once and the Gamma Male's injury has healed up again. Alpha Female  Alpha Male  Beta Female  Beta Male  Gamma Female  Gamma Male 
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Wednesday, January 6, 2010 11:17 AM
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Keep up the great work!
Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Wednesday, January 6, 2010 11:57 AM
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21 BS at once? She's gonna explode! LOL
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Wednesday, January 6, 2010 4:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishtal
21 BS at once? She's gonna explode! LOL
I couldn't believe it. I usually only feed 3-4 brine or mysis shrimp per fish. That particular female was going after the food so aggressively that I was worried her male might not be getting enough to eat and I decided to do a little experiment to see how much she'd actually consume. Next week I'm going to get a head-on shot of her so you can see just how big her belly is getting.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Wednesday, January 6, 2010 4:52 PM
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A couple meals, once a day for 1-2 days, of enriched live brine usually kick my pairs into spawning mode. 
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Thursday, January 7, 2010 8:30 PM
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This couple is definitely going to be the first to spawn. Just look at Rose's cleaning instincts kicking in. The funny part is every time Mako comes around the corner he is like, "it would probably be better if I just gave her some time alone."
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:19 PM
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Week 14 Coraline algae has begun popping up all over the brood stock system. I'm a little surprised that it can grow under the stock florescent lighting. I'm taking it as a sign of good water quality. The Alpha pair is finally spending more time together but all of it is well outside the female's established territory. It seems that the male is reluctantly approaching the flower pot a little more each day so I think they are headed in the right direction. Still this couple is far behind the other two in that department. The Beta female is nearly double the size of the male. The male has recently begun spending time inside the flower pot with the female. For the last couple of months, he was only allowed to hang out just outside of the pot so this is a good development. The Gamma's have learned how to eat off the surface of the tank. The two will swim up to the surface together but it still takes them a few attempts before they manage to get any food. The male was evicted from the pot for a few days, I'm not sure why. But he is back now. Alpha Pair  Beta Pair  Gamma Pair 
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Tuesday, February 23, 2010 5:56 PM
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula, "Picasso" variant
Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:26 PM
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Week 22 I'm quickly developing some bad habits as I try to put the brood stock out of my mind for now. I'm falling way behind on weekly water changes and the poor fish are not getting fed nearly as often as they had become accustomed to. My best guess is that the fish are now 9-11 months old. The alpha male continues to be the runt of the liter. He hasn't developed in months. The female continues to chase him away from her territory but occasionally seeks him out for some companionship. The beta and gamma pairs are the most likely to produce some offspring. The beta pair seems to be more developed, especially when it comes to the female having a fatter belly. However, the gamma pair seems to be displaying more cooperative behavior. It's a toss up as to who will spawn first. The gamma male looks like he is getting a little heavier. I noticed his anal fin has a gap between the black coloration today which I think it's a result of the fin growing recently. Alpha Female  Alpha Female  Alpha Male  Alpha Male  Beta Pair  Beta Pair  Beta Female  Beta Female  Beta Male  Beta Male  Gamma Female  Gamma Female  Gamma Male  Gamma Male 
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