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Wednesday, May 2, 2012 6:37 AM
Shelf height is adjustable, but not shelf width or length. When one is limited on space, as Tal and I are, you can't beat 2x4s for a custom fitting. You also can't beat the price. If you already have a triangle square, circular saw, hammer, drill, etc. the cost of supplies is about $50 for a really high capacity system rack.
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Wednesday, May 2, 2012 3:22 PM
Originally Posted by Arc Katana
Watch out for those... a friend just got a couple for his store, put 3x 20g on them, and they are bowing!!!! I have the same ones with 4x the weight on them, and they are not bowing... same brand, just bought a year prior. (build looks the same as well?)
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Wednesday, May 2, 2012 6:36 PM
Originally Posted by GreshamH
Originally Posted by Arc Katana
Watch out for those... a friend just got a couple for his store, put 3x 20g on them, and they are bowing!!!! I have the same ones with 4x the weight on them, and they are not bowing... same brand, just bought a year prior. (build looks the same as well?) Yeah I've noticed there can be some "differences" between batches. I ordered some 30" direct (through lowes) and they are rock solid. Got two of the above racks and one of the 'arms' was warped. Just swapped it out at the store for a new one. Right now I've got a 100 on a top shelf, a 150 on the bottom with no issues. Another one has 60 gallons total on top/middle and a 75 on the bottom, again no issues. If I'd be taking them back if ~600lbs is making them bow, they are rated for 2000 a shelf!
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Saturday, May 12, 2012 11:22 PM
So, I've been pondering the new space and how I want to utilize it. It is 6'x3' so I'm planning two levels of 20Gs. I could fit six on each level if I squeeze them. Each tank is 12" wide and I'd need a couple more inches for the wood the stand is made out of. I've also been considering plumbing each level into its own sump in an effort to provide some extra security against system failure/loss. Of course, this will double the cost of pumps and such...
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Saturday, May 12, 2012 11:42 PM
Don't squeeze the tanks too tight. Glass tanks bow a bit when full of water,and you don't want them pressing against your uprights.
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Saturday, May 12, 2012 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by KathyL
Don't squeeze the tanks too tight. Glass tanks bow a bit when full of water,and you don't want them pressing against your uprights. When I used the word "squeeze" I meant the rack might be a bit more than 6' wide and need a bit more room , not placing the tanks tightly together. I'll plan it out more but may just go with 5 on each level.
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Sunday, May 13, 2012 4:56 AM
If you want to cheat on the width of the uprights cut plywood into strips and glue the together. You can get the same strength of a 2x with half the width
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Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:46 PM
Here is a concept I have for the new system: http://i99.photobucket.co...ing%20Stuff/img044.jpg Not complete, of course. The idea is to use 2x6's for the top level to avoid using vertical supports that would be in the way of the middle level. Originally I wanted 6 tanks, per level but it's looking like I can only fit 5.
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Wednesday, May 16, 2012 11:35 AM
2x6's would be just fine over a 6' span without a vertical middle brace. You're talking at most what 1000lbs? Maybe 1200? I can't count the number of big tanks (150G+) that all run 2x6 over 6' without a vertical middle support. Just slap a decent sized piece of ply on top of the 2x6 and you're fine. Now get it built!
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Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:55 PM
Just for you, Brett: $28 in lumber should do the trick.
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Wednesday, May 16, 2012 8:56 PM
woot!
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:01 PM
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:05 PM
Nice. My 4yrs old girl wants my grow out system to be PINK. LOL
<message edited by mike13oy on Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:05 PM>
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:06 PM
Have you thought about having tanks end on Tal? I know in my setup it really made a difference to the number of tanks that I could fit in.
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Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:00 PM
Originally Posted by Duck
Have you thought about having tanks end on Tal? I know in my setup it really made a difference to the number of tanks that I could fit in. Yup, all of my tanks are on end.
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Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:10 PM
Thanks to help from Joe the new rack was completed today. Beginning... Almost installed... All done... Thanks Joe!!!
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Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:19 PM
Sweet. I love the colors. They were my favorite colors as a little girl in the 60's.
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Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:17 PM
Where are all the tanks and plumbing?
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Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:44 PM
Looking good! I think the 2x6's I suggested will work just fine.
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Sunday, May 20, 2012 10:50 PM
Thanks! Tanks and pvc will be here this week, I think. Ordered bulkheads earlier. Need a new hole saw too.
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Friday, May 25, 2012 7:40 PM
Picked up PVC this week: PVC fittings layout: 6 new tanks in the car: and in the garage waiting too be drilled:
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Friday, May 25, 2012 8:04 PM
Excellent progress Tal! This is the part I really dislike though...drilling tanks and plumbing sucks! Hopefully you will have some water running by Monday?
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Friday, May 25, 2012 8:10 PM
Originally Posted by EasterEggs
Excellent progress Tal! This is the part I really dislike though...drilling tanks and plumbing sucks! Hopefully you will have some water running by Monday? Thanks! No pump until Tuesday so no water until then.
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 6:50 PM
Tal, are you painting the tanks?
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:03 PM
Originally Posted by EasterEggs
Tal, are you painting the tanks? No, these are all grow out tanks so I don't see a need. Not painting them will allow more light to enter so I don't think I'll need extra light.
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 8:42 PM
I painted the bottoms on mine. I thinkthe fish feel more secure, and I can see the schmutz. Nice system, Tal!
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 8:44 PM
How about just the back and bottoms then so it looks perdy?
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Sunday, May 27, 2012 8:45 PM
Originally Posted by KathyL
I painted the bottoms on mine. I thinkthe fish feel more secure, and I can see the schmutz. Nice system, Tal! Yeah, I've been thinking about painting the bottoms after looking at the pics.
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Monday, May 28, 2012 7:09 PM
Well, did you paint the bottoms yet? Your goal is to finish the bottom level before June 1st.
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Monday, May 28, 2012 7:59 PM
It was too hot to get anything done today.
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Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:40 PM
Getting used to the white PVC. Not painting it this time. I spent a bit more time making sure the holes were drilled in roughly the same spot and all the drain pipes were measured so they would be vertical. They are still adjustable though. Return line is just resting on the tanks for now. They will be attached to the frame tomorrow.
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Friday, June 1, 2012 6:51 PM
Tal are you planning on adding a skimmer or anything to the sump for filtration?
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Friday, June 1, 2012 6:59 PM
Originally Posted by mhowe9
Tal are you planning on adding a skimmer or anything to the sump for filtration? I'm avoiding a skimmer. I want to use as little electricity and equipment as possible. I'm going to start with a filter sock and a K1 reactor. May add an ATS in the future if it looks like I need to.
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Friday, June 1, 2012 7:32 PM
The skimmer in my broodstock system doesn't seem to do much. It is a good quality skimmer being a EuroReef RS-180. I wonder if the low SG of 1.020 is a factor? I don't think skimmerless is such a bad idea!
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