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Breeding Journal, Species: Elacatinus oceanops
Friday, January 21, 2011 9:21 AM
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Breeding Journal DataSheet This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species: Elacatinus oceanops (neon gobby) Social Structure: single pair Size of Individuals: 2" - 2 1/4" Age of Individuals: unsure Date added to Tank: September 2010 Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank: 20 gallon long Substrate Details: bare bottom Filtration Details: flow-through (sump with skimmer, micron sock, UV) Water Changes: Weekly 10% Water Temperature: 80-82 Lighting: T5 Lighting Cycle: 14 hrs on/ 10 hrs off Other Tank Inhabitants: a pair of assessors and a clownfish Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types: frozen mysis & homemade 'mush' and otihime pellets Feeding Schedule: at least 2 x day Spawning Details Date of First Spawn: 1-13?; I found them on 1-17-2011 and they already developed the black eye spots Spawn Time of Day: Unsure Dates of Consecutive Spawns: 1-20-2011, 1-28, (they spawn the day after I remove their previous nest) Courtship Details: always together; sometimes rub up against one another Egg Size: tiny - much smaller than percula eggs (2mm per literature) Egg Color: transparent at first and then black eye spot develops several days later Egg Count: 100+ Hatch Details Hatch Date: 1-19 & 1-20, 1-27 Hatch Time of Day: evening of the 6-7th day. As I place them into the hatching tank, they begin to hatch! Maybe the bright light and movement of the water stimulates them? # Days after Spawn: 6 - 7 Larvae Description: very small and difficult to see in the green water; they swim with peculiar jerking movements. Larval Tank Details Temperature: 79-80 Size of Larval Tank: 20 gallon high Substrate Details: bare bottom Other Tank Decor: sponge filter Filtration Details: sponge filter Lighting: normal output floresent about 14" from top of water Lighting Cycle: 14 hrs on, 10 hrs off Water Changes: slowly vacuum bottom every 3-4 day Larval Feeding Details Food Types: rotifers and copepods Feeding Schedule: constant Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start: 2-11-11 Days after Hatch: 22 days Date of Settlement End: 2-20-11 (5-8 days all settled) Description of Fry: Identicle to adults but still very small. They swim/jerk around less. Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature: 78-80 f Size of Grow-Out Tank: 40 gallon breeder Substrate Details: bare bottom for easier scraping/cleaning Other Tank Decor: sometimes macro algae Filtration Details: flow through system part of my 380 gallon growout; sump, skimmer, UV and micron sock sometimes Lighting: T5 Lighting Cycle: 14 hrs on/10 hrs off Water Changes: weekly scraping/vacuuming; around 5-8% Size at Transfer: 1" or after settlement Age at Transfer: 30-45 days post hatch Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types: otihime, new life spectrum pellets, thawed mysis & homemade mush Feeding Schedule: at least 3 times per day Additional Information Miscellaneous Information(NO PHOTOS OR VIDEO): You will be required to provide photographic or video evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program. If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports. PHOTOS AND VIDEO S MUST BE PLACED IN ADDITIONAL POSTS, NEVER IN THE FIRST POST IN A JOURNAL.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, January 21, 2011 9:22 AM
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Adults
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, January 21, 2011 9:23 AM
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Male tending the egg mass
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, January 21, 2011 9:50 AM
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Awesome! Great pics too!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, January 21, 2011 10:00 AM
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Doni can you tell us a bit about your broodstock setup? Maybe some pics?
Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, January 21, 2011 11:42 AM
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Thanks Arc Katana Chad - their broodstock set up is one of 6 x 20 gallon long tanks; all plumbed together sharing a 55 gallon sump (skimmer, micron sock and UV). I did find a photo but I can't post it... lol ... it was taken when the system had a horrible plankton bloom and the water was GREEN in every tank  I plugged the UV in and it cleared up in 2 days.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, January 21, 2011 11:47 AM
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Sounds like it's time fora new picture I'd love to see how you have everything setup. Personally how people setup there entire system is an important part of the whole process..
Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:58 AM
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Too cool!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:01 AM
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Will you please describe the foods you're offering the broodstock in more detail? It looks like the eggs were laid on the inside of a PVC pipe with a cap on the end. Is it 3/4" diameter? How long? Does the cap have holes drilled in the end? I've read that neon goby larvae require many more rotifers than clowns. Has this been your experience also? Thanks very much for sharing your journal. I'll be following along closely. Good luck!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:35 PM
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Nothing fancy.. just 6 x 20 gallon longs plumbed together. The very top left tank is not there right now.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:44 PM
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I try to feed a variety of foods including pellets and frozen. New Life Spectrum pellets, frozen: brine, mysis, mysids, bloodworms, homemade mush, nutramar, etc.. just about any frozen stuff my LFS sells. The PVC is larger than 3/4"... 2" I think? I don't know the length... maybe 6-8 " or so. Yes, there are holes drilled into the endcaps to allow some water flow. I am not qualified to answer any questions regarding the fry requirements as I have not yet succeeded in raising any. This is my first go.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:49 PM
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Only a few of the eggs hatched. I need to research that a bit more... I tried using the clownfish aerating method but it didn't work too well. Maybe 10-20 hatched? Here is a video I took yesterday of one of the fry.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:52 PM
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There are around a dozen doing good still Since there are so few, I don't have to add rotifers to the water which is nice. Tonight I added the 2nd spawn to the same nursery tank. As I did, the eggs started hatching! It was cool to watch.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, January 28, 2011 10:46 AM
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So you're doing 2 batches in the same larval tank, 12 day age difference?
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, January 28, 2011 12:08 PM
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Yes. Utilizing a 20 gallon rearing tank for only 10-12 fry is not practical so I added the next batch to it.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:39 PM
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CLICK to watch the video. Taken today. It is very difficult to video these little guys.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:14 AM
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Cool video Like the setup- simple, and all in one stand- accessible without taking up too much floor space. How are the babies doing? Do you notice a difference between the 2 hatches in the same tank? (too young I assume to have any differences... but do you think there will be bullying problems in a few weeks as they grow?)
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Monday, January 31, 2011 5:13 AM
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So far so good. There are a LOT of fry and impossible to count. I can easily tell the older from the younger. The older are about 3 x larger but still look exactly the same (clear with 3 reflective spots). They also swim much better. They can swim accross the tank easily while the younger ones still 'jerk' about.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Monday, January 31, 2011 9:48 PM
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Good job. I've always wanted to do these but I've had tons of problems getting a compatible pair.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Elactinus oceanops
Friday, February 11, 2011 2:47 PM
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Just get several and put them together. You'll get a few pairs
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