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• Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula (Picasso variant)

  Change Page: < 12345678 > | Showing page 3 of 8, messages 41 to 60 of 149 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Author Message Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula Friday, April 15, 2011 6:19 PM (permalink) They look ready to go to me. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #41 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula Friday, April 15, 2011 6:38 PM (permalink) Originally Posted by rgrking from what I see that's what mine look like. They should hatch tonight if it's been 8 days shouldn't they? I have been going 7-9 days. So tonight is likely the night.   #42 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula Friday, April 15, 2011 6:39 PM (permalink) Originally Posted by Fishtal They look ready to go to me. Thank you. I'll pull them tonight (fingers crossed)   #43 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:18 AM (permalink) Before hatching I cleaned everything with hydrogen peroxide and I also dipped the eggs with Formalin MS (10grops per gallon) for about 6 minutes. I feel this helped with my potential fungus issue. Well, I looked in last night at midnight and it was a much better hatch rate. It seemed like 100% hatch rate. I went to sleep and checked on them about 9:15am. I'd say 75% are dead. They hatched and were scattered around the floor of the larva tank. Specific gravity and temp. matched the broadstock tank exactly. I had two air stones going at a low rate, one directly under the eggs and the other under the heater. I added rotigreen and rots to the tank to try to keep the 15-20 larva alive but I did leave in the dead ones. On second thought this will lead to polluted water and I will try to get them out. Overall, more success but still horrible survival rates.   #44 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula Saturday, April 16, 2011 7:27 PM (permalink) Hmm. Not sure what's going on. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #45 FlynnFish Total Posts : 212 Reward points : 457 Joined: 4/10/2011 Location: Warren, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 605 Pnts MBI Site: Captive Reefs.com Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:18 PM (permalink) Brian, the same thing happened to me the first time I tried to raise my ocellaris fry. I had 95% hatch rate and they all died seemed like instantly after hatching. They were all dead (but five) gathered around the rock from which the eggs were on. To this day I have no clue what happened. I took the water directly from the broodstock tank at the same time as the rock. the water was a bit cloudy from all the detrius that was on the rock that became dislodged when tranfering.   #46 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion percula Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:01 PM (permalink) Most larva that made it past the first night (about 15) made it to Day 2. I had 2 to make it to day 4. My next spawn happened today, about 4pm, and I plan on starting greenwater the night of the hatch. I also suspect poor water quality lead to the 15 or so dying off so fast. I plan on getting an ammonia alert badge to assist me to know when to do water changes.    #47 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula ] Sunday, May 8, 2011 3:02 PM (permalink) Well I forgot to update but no larva made it past day 4. I have researched and I believe broad stock nutrition is the root of my issues. I have increased feeding and diversity of foods for the past 5 days. My pair laid the next batch today and it seems a little bigger. I am just hoping to avoid mass losses during the first 48 hours. Fingers crossed........again.   #48 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:01 AM (permalink) Another complete loss. My wife had our second child on Monday morning(the night of the hatch). I ran home later in the day to get our camera and transferred the eggs quickly. I think I did everything correctly. The only thing I didn't do was a formalin dip. I set up rots and green water and left 500ml of top off water going at a slow drip. I came home on Wednesday hoping to have a tank full of larva. 100% death rate!! The larva concentration around the pot tells me that they didn't hatch or died extremely quick. Got to say I'm a bit disappointed. Here are some pictures but I don't know how much they will help. I only increased broad stock feedings for 5-6 days before they laid this clutch but I thought I would see some improvement, and definitely not a decline. I will continue to focus on broadstock nutrition but I need some help here. Not sure what's going on. Could my picasso/picasso pair be to closely related? They came from the same breeder and most likely have the same parents.     #49 rgrking Total Posts : 712 Reward points : 446 Joined: 4/8/2011 Location: Sullivan, MO, US Status: offline MBI: 305 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Societies of North America Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:34 AM (permalink) I'm new here, but wouldn't it be better to catch the larva after they hatch, instead of putting the eggs in a different container the night before? I've heard lots of people with the same problem doing the same thing. RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8   #50 cmpenney Total Posts : 2772 Reward points : 1443 Joined: 7/18/2005 Location: Reading, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 70 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:03 PM (permalink) Hey Brian,   Can you do me a favor and update the datasheet in the first post. Your Species name isn't correct. Pretty sure it should be "Amphiprion percula" Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis   #51 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 7:22 PM (permalink) This is probably a stupid question but, You are letting the bubbles hit the eggs, right? In the pix the eggs are underneath the airstone, I assume that is just for showing the eggs... http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #52 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:33 PM (permalink) The eggs are kept in the 12 o'clock position with air going directly over the eggs. The pictures show were the eggs fell off the pot and died. As you can see they either didn't hatch or died extremely soon after hatching. Looking at them, it seems the larva are still encased but it is hard to tell for me. Any suggestions? I am getting a bit discouraged. Thank guys and gals.   #53 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:41 PM (permalink) Ok, I figured that was the case. Just wanted to be sure. At this point I'm not sure what the problem is... possibly airflow is too high, or low.   I guess the next step would be to get some fresh eggs under a scope to make sure they are viable. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #54 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:53 PM (permalink) Can you help me determine viable eggs with my next batch? I had plans are observing a hatch in my display tank to help determine this but the use of a microscope would be much better. I wouldn't know what to look for at this point so would really appreciate your help.   #55 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:55 PM (permalink) Sure, I'll do whatever I can. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #56 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:18 PM (permalink) What is a good post spawn day to observe them? I will let you know when they lay again. Thanks Tal, I appreciate it.   #57 Umm_fish? Total Posts : 2835 Reward points : 953 Joined: 11/4/2009 Location: Boulder, CO, US Status: offline MBI: 775 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Society of Colorado Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:34 AM (permalink) Originally Posted by I had two air stones going at a low rate, one directly under the eggs and the other under the heater.   My guess would be too low. You want the flow over the eggs to be vigorous. --Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886   #58 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:48 AM (permalink) I have tried different flow rates. I'll admit that this time was on the lower end of the flow rates I've tried. And my results were the worst. Good point!! I remember reading that too much is better than not enough. I will increase air flow to try and help. Does anybody have a link to their larva tank airflow? I will also search YouTube. Thanks.   #59 BriGuy31+ Total Posts : 194 Reward points : 499 Joined: 2/1/2011 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 100 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Amphiprion percula] Monday, June 6, 2011 1:18 PM (permalink) They took awhile to lay their next batch but they did so today. I would like to take these over to Tal's to put them under the microscope to asses vitality. What day post hatch is best to do this? I hope to find a solution to my losses within the first 12-24 hours. I have a breeding rack set to go and it makes me sad to see it empty .     #60 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: < 12345678 > | Showing page 3 of 8, messages 41 to 60 of 149 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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