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Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Sunday, April 10, 2011 5:19 PM
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Breeding Journal DataSheet This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi Social Structure: Pair Size of Individuals: M: Just under 3" F: 2.5" Age of Individuals: Unknown Date added to Tank: 3/22/2011 Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank: Biocube 14 Substrate Details: 1" Crushed Coral Filtration Details: Biological/Mechanical (Filter pad)/Chemical (Chemi-pure Elite) Water Changes: 3 Gallons bi monthly Water Temperature: 78-82 Lighting: 6W 453 Blue Stunner LED Strip, 6W 8K/453 Blue Stunner LED Strip Lighting Cycle: 12 On / Off Other Tank Inhabitants: B/W "Darwins" Amphiprion ocellaris Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types: Frozen: Mysis (Hikari & PC), Hikari Brine & Spirulina Brine, Rods Food (Original) Rods Eggs, Pellets, Copepods, wild zooplankton Feeding Schedule: Four to five times a day, no set time. Spawning Details Date of First Spawn: Spawn Time of Day: Dates of Consecutive Spawns: Courtship Details: Egg Size: Egg Color: Egg Count: Hatch Details Hatch Date: Hatch Time of Day: # Days after Spawn: Larvae Description: Larval Tank Details Temperature: Size of Larval Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Larval Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start: Days after Hatch: Date of Settlement End: Description of Fry: Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature: Size of Grow-Out Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Size at Transfer: Age at Transfer: Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Additional Information (No Pictures or Videos in the Section Please) Miscellaneous Information: You will be required to provide photographic or video evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program. If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports. PHOTOS AND VIDEO S MUST BE PLACED IN ADDITIONAL POSTS, NEVER IN THE FIRST POST IN A JOURNAL.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Sunday, April 10, 2011 5:28 PM
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First day in the tank - Male on top, female on bottom. Today 4/10/2011
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Sunday, April 10, 2011 5:53 PM
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Pretty pair.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Sunday, April 10, 2011 6:19 PM
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Nice! How did you pair them? Or did you purchase them as a pair?
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Sunday, April 10, 2011 6:35 PM
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Blake - I got them as a pair.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Saturday, April 16, 2011 8:08 PM
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Female has been getting a tummy around 5-6pm most days, I'd wager from starting to hydrate eggs. There is a definitely something going on as the male is hanging out above the rockwork as the night goes on. Interesting enough the female is pretty ravenous in the morning - and much thinner. I'm sure I'm missing them spawn as I'm not watching the tank in the evenings.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:44 PM
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So just an update - they are spawning just about every night (Judging by the females "fatness" at night, and the following skinny in the morning). Evidently the 14" or so inches in the Biocube isn't an issue for height. Now to set the pumps to turn off for a couple hours at night, and an air stone to kick on when they go off. I'll try to close up the top intake as well so they can't go into the filter.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Friday, April 22, 2011 10:34 PM
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Jealous - this was the species I wanted to try
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Friday, April 22, 2011 11:07 PM
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Very cool! Please keep us posted!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, May 16, 2011 9:30 AM
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Just an update (wow was it three weeks the last post? for now. There is certainly a correlation between feeds and how quickly the female gets full in the evenings. They would only eat frozen mysis at the beginning, went to eating frozen mysis and live grammus shrimp and pellets to really only attacking pellets now. Even tho there are four kinds of pellets in the dry formula I give, the female is only getting gravid about ever four or five days now. Starting this wednesday, I'll be going to an all live diet for all my broodstock for a couple weeks to see if that helps kick off the breeding. Weening from pellets may be a challenge tho.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Monday, May 16, 2011 9:58 PM
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Happy that I stayed up past my bedtime to get this video.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 7:59 AM
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Fixed link on the video - evidently I got to anxious and didn't wait for youtube to finish The red lights are "night light" LEDS. The spawning sequence went something like this: Female starts appearing plump in the morning - swelling as it gets later. About 30 minutes or so before lights out the male spends more time in the water column, the female cruises by every now and then. She'll start to move up into the water column as well - but I did not witness any displaying, flashing, etc. Lights go out (on timer, but I sped it up about 5 minutes). Fish are instantly more active once the lights go out. They normally hang out about 6-12" away from each other during the day, they started sticking close to each other. Within six or seven minutes of lights out they did the deed. Noticing the female this morning, she isn't as round as last night but that can change in the next 10 hours or so. Now that I know what to look for, I'll turn the pumps off tonight and see if I can get some eggs. Cheers!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:11 AM
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Awesome!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Tuesday, May 17, 2011 9:39 PM
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Caught them again in the act - but turned pumps off this time Egg shots:
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:53 PM
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Freakin' sweet
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:08 PM
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Nice! Did you have any that started dividing?
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Wednesday, May 18, 2011 8:39 PM
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I pretty much just got 10-20 eggs out and put them under a scope within 5 minutes Since they did have the nucleus I'd imagine they were good. Trying to jump start my spawning system with 15lbs of live rock from a system that was up a year. Much easier to collect ALL the eggs each night then scoop em out with a spoon and flashlight lol. Hoping to get them into the system this weekend.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:16 AM
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Well, what you are seeing there is mostly yolk. The big black dot is the oil globule that helps the egg float. If you leave them on the microscope stage for a while, you might get to see them start dividing. That's how you know they are fertile. Of course, the water evaporates eventually and the egg dies. But you can also see it if you float the eggs in a cup (yogurt container or something). Use a magnifying glass and light the eggs from below. That way, you can see the whole cell division and larval development without the water going away. But if you look at them closely under the microscope, you can sometimes see the little crater that's the place where the sperm entered the egg. It's really small but easy to see once you've seen a couple. That'll tell you, too.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Thursday, May 19, 2011 9:02 AM
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that's really cool shots!
RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Liopropoma mowbrayi
Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:19 AM
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So Jake Adams actually said that you have some sort of video or pictures of an egg collecting device that you're using? I didn't see that here...care to add? Regarding fertility, division happens pretty quickly...probably within the hour...
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