Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma

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Duck
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Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Monday, April 11, 2011 2:30 PM
Breeding Journal DataSheet
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General
Species:  Apogon Cyanasoma
Social Structure:  Pair
Size of Individuals:  2"
Age of Individuals:  Not Known
Date added to Tank:  March 2011

Broodstock Tank Details
Size of Tank:  25gal
Substrate Details:  None
Filtration Details:  Central filter
Water Changes:  None
Water Temperature:  80f
Lighting:  Ambient fish house lights
Lighting Cycle:  14 on
Other Tank Inhabitants:  Akindynos clown

Broodstock Feeding Details
Food Types:  All types frozen, home made gel
Feeding Schedule: 

Spawning Details
Date of First Spawn:  sometime between 04/09/11 and 04/11/11
Spawn Time of Day:  not known
Dates of Consecutive Spawns:  5/30/11, 7/17/11, 7/26/11
Courtship Details: 
Egg Size:  1mm
Egg Color:  orangeish
Egg Count:  100

Hatch Details
Hatch Date:  04/17/2011
Hatch Time of Day:  10pm 1 hour after lights out
# Days after Spawn:  7/8
Larvae Description:  Approx 2-3mm in length, large eyes and visible stomach.


Larval Tank Details
Temperature:  80f
Size of Larval Tank:  5ltrs at the moment
Substrate Details:  none
Other Tank Decor:  none
Filtration Details:  none
Lighting:  Ambient fish house lights
Lighting Cycle:  14 on
Water Changes:  none as yet

Larval Feeding Details
Food Types:  L strain rots
Feeding Schedule:  continuous

Metamorphosis/Settlement
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Description of Fry: 

Grow-Out Tank Details

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Duck
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Monday, April 11, 2011 2:31 PM
Found the male carrying eggs today after returning from a weekend away.
 


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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:25 PM
Anyone have any idea on gestation period for these eggs?

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:36 PM
According to Witt's book: "All known species of cardinalfish are mouthbrooders that orally incubate their eggs until hatching 7 to 8 days after fertilization. With the exception of the Banggai cardinal fish that lacks a pelagic larval phase..."
http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:53 PM
Thanks Tal.

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:17 PM
Yeah, it can be done, but much more difficult.  Got to 45 days with Apogon leptacanthus...

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:23 PM
My male Leptacanthus sucks! He's totally useless at brooding. Looks like the Cyan is doin a bit better lol.

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Monday, April 18, 2011 5:03 AM
Larvae hatched last night. I placed the male in a 5litre plastic tank and floated it in the main tank. The larvae hatched approx 1 hour after lights out. I removed the male and left the plastic tank in the main tank overnight. In the morning approx 2/3rds of the larvae were dead concentrated in one small area approx 1" square on the bottom of the tank. With hindsight I should have removed the tank and covered the sides to prevent light coming in from the sides. I had small led moonlights on in the fish house and I think they were probably glass kissing all night which caused the fatalities.
 
Heres some pics of the fry left alive. I guesstimate around 50-100. The coin you can see is a £1 coin. Not much use to you guys that side of the pond but I didn't have any dollars or cents in my pockets!...Hahaha.





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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:03 PM
There was only 1 larvae alive tonight. Not sure why they all died so quickly, but I may need to cultivate alot more pod naups for these little guys.

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:27 PM
Sorry to hear that. Two days is pretty darn fast. Any chance it could be environmental?
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:38 PM
Don't think so but couldn't say for sure. Trying out small acrylic 5 litre tanks for the first time, so maybe them. Will see how the few cyphos I have get on with them before calling judgement The gold stripe larvae hatched well but 2/3rds were dead before sun up. So not sure as it was first spawning for them.
May just go back to BRT's but space is becoming a problem.

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Wednesday, April 20, 2011 2:09 AM
sorry to hear that.  Any sign of hydriods?

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Wednesday, April 20, 2011 2:18 AM
No not in this one.

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Monday, May 30, 2011 6:16 PM
Found Male with a massive nest off eggs in his mouth today. Fingers crossed I get these a bit further than last time.

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Sunday, July 17, 2011 3:38 PM
Well the male is finally carrying eggs again. Lets see if he can hold them this time without eating them. Looks like they are only going to spawn once every 6 weeks.
Here's a shot of the male. 
 


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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Monday, July 18, 2011 12:49 PM
Dang! Got back from work today and he's swallowed the eggs again! Think next time I might have to catch him to cough them up.
Any thoughts?

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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Apogon Cyanasoma - Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:00 PM
They spawned again either frst thing this morning or last  night. As soon as I got in from work tonight I captured the male and got him to spit the eggs. Easier that it sounds! He took a leap for freedom but luckily landed in one of the larval tubs on floor, so a grabbed him put him in the net and he spat the eggs.
Here's a pic.