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  Stick or Twist? Stick   66% (4) Twist get a male leucokranos or a Thielle   33% (2) Twist pair them with a Ocellaris, Sandracinos or Chrysopterus   0% (0) Total Votes: 6 Author Message Duck Total Posts : 466 Scores: 8 Reward points : 465 Joined: 12/14/2010 Location: Barrow in Furness, Cumberland Status: offline MBI: 760 Pnts MBI Site: Marinefish-uk.co.uk Stick or Twist? Thursday, July 7, 2011 2:25 PM (permalink) 4 OK here's the dilemma. I have been searching for many years to find a Leucokranos or Thiellei pair. (We don't see them often in Europe if ever). Finally I track down a pair but the guy who owns them won't or can't confirm their status. Anway turns out they are a pair but one is a Leuc the other is a Thiellei. ( The pair in my Avatar ) Before I go on I just want to clarify the common beliefs by the most informed people I know regarding these fish, and that is; Leucokranos is a wild hybrid of Chrysopterus and Sandracinos. Thiellei is a wild hybrid of Ocellaris and Sandracinos. And therein lays my dilemma. Do I search and for how long to find either another Thiellei, or a male Leuc? Or do I stick with what I have and see if the resulting offspring can offer some real evidence as to the origins of these fish. Or I could try pairing them with a Ocelleris or sandracinos or chrysopterus. If I did have offspring there could be some genetic testing that could be done to clarify the mix of the parents, couldn't there? Im no geneticist (is that spelt right? looks weird) but I'm sure its possible. If these were you fish what would you do? Please use the poll to vote. I will go with the majority outcome if it can be achieved   #1 bookfish Total Posts : 100 Scores: 4 Reward points : 870 Joined: 5/13/2010 Location: Bay Area, CA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Stick or Twist? Thursday, July 7, 2011 7:21 PM (permalink) 5  I'd stick. The pair as they are are as interesting as any of the possible blue stripe, skunk or occy mixed pairs imo. But I'd keep hunting for the true pairs as well.   #2 cmpenney Total Posts : 2772 Scores: 8 Reward points : 1443 Joined: 7/18/2005 Location: Reading, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 70 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Stick or Twist? Thursday, July 7, 2011 10:02 PM (permalink) 5 I vote Stick as well. Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis   #3 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2909 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Stick or Twist? Thursday, July 7, 2011 10:15 PM (permalink) 0 I'm still pondering this... http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #4 Duck Total Posts : 466 Scores: 8 Reward points : 465 Joined: 12/14/2010 Location: Barrow in Furness, Cumberland Status: offline MBI: 760 Pnts MBI Site: Marinefish-uk.co.uk Re:Stick or Twist? Friday, July 8, 2011 12:02 PM (permalink) 0 Could all please take the time to use the vote at the top of the page. 44 views only 1 vote!!!! Even non members can vote. Thanks.   #5 Duck Total Posts : 466 Scores: 8 Reward points : 465 Joined: 12/14/2010 Location: Barrow in Furness, Cumberland Status: offline MBI: 760 Pnts MBI Site: Marinefish-uk.co.uk Re:Stick or Twist? Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:03 PM (permalink) 0 Seems people are reluctant to vote on this subject 71 views and only 4 votes......Hmmm. Having talked to many fishkeepers and owners of hybrids it seems that many love the hybrid clowns that are available, but don't want to come right out and say they love hybrids. Would this be a condoning something that is morally wrong, or is it just taking very closely related fish and making them more interesting? Could it be that people are concerned that they may be ridiculed for outright saying they like or want to breed hybrids? Man has always hybridised animals, so why are fish any different? I am hoping to get some comment here from some eminent breeders of hybrids and hobbyists alike. So come on guys, where's the beef?!   #6 cmpenney Total Posts : 2772 Scores: 8 Reward points : 1443 Joined: 7/18/2005 Location: Reading, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 70 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Stick or Twist? Monday, July 11, 2011 11:51 AM (permalink) 0 I voted... Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis   #7 Duck Total Posts : 466 Scores: 8 Reward points : 465 Joined: 12/14/2010 Location: Barrow in Furness, Cumberland Status: offline MBI: 760 Pnts MBI Site: Marinefish-uk.co.uk Re:Stick or Twist? Monday, July 11, 2011 3:38 PM (permalink) 0 Thanks Chad. You have until the end of the month to change my mind regarding what to do with these fish. Whichever way it goes I absolutely love these fish and would be happy if they never spawned with any fish.....But it would be kinda cool!   #8 Duck Total Posts : 466 Scores: 8 Reward points : 465 Joined: 12/14/2010 Location: Barrow in Furness, Cumberland Status: offline MBI: 760 Pnts MBI Site: Marinefish-uk.co.uk Re:Stick or Twist? Monday, August 1, 2011 3:12 PM (permalink) 0 Bit dissapointing only 6 votes I am keeping them together but will keep an eye out for a proper mate, but doubt very much one will turn up this side of the pond.   #9 Duck Total Posts : 466 Scores: 8 Reward points : 465 Joined: 12/14/2010 Location: Barrow in Furness, Cumberland Status: offline MBI: 760 Pnts MBI Site: Marinefish-uk.co.uk Re:Stick or Twist? Monday, August 1, 2011 3:19 PM (permalink) 0 Bit dissapointing only 6 votes I am keeping them together but will keep an eye out for a proper mate, but doubt very much one will turn up this side of the pond.   #10 Duck Total Posts : 466 Scores: 8 Reward points : 465 Joined: 12/14/2010 Location: Barrow in Furness, Cumberland Status: offline MBI: 760 Pnts MBI Site: Marinefish-uk.co.uk Re:Stick or Twist? Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:27 PM (permalink) 0 Well no luck finding a Leuc or a Thiellei over here and don't want to pay the horrendous shipping from the US for 1 or 2 fish. Today I decided to mix it up a bit. The male Thiellei is now with a large female Oc, and the Leuc is in with a male Perideraion. Will see how it go's........ Couldn't get a shot of the Oc with the Thiellei, seems their not too much in love yet!         #11 rgrking Total Posts : 712 Scores: 22 Reward points : 446 Joined: 4/8/2011 Location: Sullivan, MO, US Status: offline MBI: 305 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Societies of North America Re:Stick or Twist? Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:39 PM (permalink) 5 wow those are some pretty fish! RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8   #12 Chelle's Ocean Total Posts : 399 Scores: 0 Reward points : 242 Joined: 8/14/2010 Location: Inverness, FL, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Captive Reefs.com Re:Stick or Twist? Thursday, December 22, 2011 5:54 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by rgrking wow those are some pretty fish! Michelle       #13 Chelle's Ocean Total Posts : 399 Scores: 0 Reward points : 242 Joined: 8/14/2010 Location: Inverness, FL, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Captive Reefs.com Re:Stick or Twist? Thursday, December 22, 2011 5:55 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by rgrking wow those are some pretty fish! Michelle       #14 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon

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