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  Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 37 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Author Message Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:02 PM (permalink) Breeding Journal DataSheet This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species:  Sphaeramia nematoptera Social Structure:  Pair Size of Individuals:  2" Age of Individuals:  unknown (were mated when I acquired) Date added to Tank:  4/6/2011 Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank:  16g Substrate Details: crushed coral  Filtration Details:  linked sump with live rock, air driven skimmer and macro algae Water Changes:  roughly 25% every two weeks Water Temperature:  79-80 Lighting:  florescent Lighting Cycle:  12/12 Other Tank Inhabitants:  none Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types:  mixed frozen foods Feeding Schedule:  3-5x a day, what can be eaten in roughly 15 seconds Spawning Details Date of First Spawn:  5/15/2011 (First date in my possession) Spawn Time of Day:  evening after lights out Dates of Consecutive Spawns:  5/15/2011, 6/1/2011, 6/23/2011, 8/10/2011, 8/25/2011, 9/6/2011, 9/28/2011, 10/14/2011  Courtship Details:  Twitching.  secondary dorsal fins seem to get larger on female.  Males fins tend to get much more tattered as spawn gets closer Egg Size:  unknown (in mouth) Egg Color:  unknown Egg Count:  unknown Hatch Details Hatch Date:  Hatch Time of Day:  # Days after Spawn:  Larvae Description:  Larval Tank Details Temperature:  Size of Larval Tank:  Substrate Details:  Other Tank Decor:  Filtration Details:  Lighting:  Lighting Cycle:  Water Changes:  Larval Feeding Details Food Types:  Feeding Schedule:  Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start:  Days after Hatch:  Date of Settlement End:  Description of Fry:  Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature:  Size of Grow-Out Tank:  Substrate Details:  Other Tank Decor:  Filtration Details:  Lighting:  Lighting Cycle:  Water Changes:  Size at Transfer:  Age at Transfer:  Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types:  Feeding Schedule:  Additional Information (No Pictures or Videos in the Section Please) Miscellaneous Information:  You will be required to provide photographic or video evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program. If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports. PHOTOS AND VIDEO S MUST BE PLACED IN ADDITIONAL POSTS, NEVER IN THE FIRST POST IN A JOURNAL. <message edited by Caesra on Friday, October 14, 2011 10:11 PM>   #1 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:03 PM (permalink)   #2 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Thursday, August 18, 2011 8:54 PM (permalink) The last two attempts I attempted raising the fry in a 10g, and I am going to give it a whirl in a 15g feeding tub this time around.  Only a few days from release and the father is holding strong, so I am expecting a decent release.   I have setup to tub and started a rotifer culture.  It is my intent to clean the tub and reduce down the water level as low as I can when they release.  Sieve out the rotifers in the culture and replace the water I have removed with water from the brood tank.   Attached are pics of the pair and the tank.  I have a light I will be hanging over the tank.  No heater...ambient in room is 78-79F.   Rotifers are being raised on RG+.     #3 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:29 PM (permalink) Update from 8/19.  Papa was looking like was going along great.  Checked for larvae three hours after lights out on 8/18 for larvae and no sign.  I had noticed during the day on 8/18 that his mouth was looking less bulged, but I had noticed this on his last release too and still wound up with several hundred fry.   In any event, When I woke up on the 19th, he was no longer holding and there were no signs of larvae in the tank.  On the 18th, a heater had been added to the tank @79 degrees and flow through the tank turn to minimal.  Maybe 1g per hour and a sponge placed over the overflow to prevent larvae from esacaping should the release after I went to sleep.    In any event, there were no signs of release and he was ready to eat at lights on.     #4 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Friday, August 26, 2011 9:03 PM (permalink) Well, got another batch of eggs last night 8/25-8/26.  Noticed the male hiding and not eating this morning.  Looks like he might be carrying a larger load this time so hopefully I can get some pictures of an egg mass this time.   #5 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Saturday, August 27, 2011 8:36 PM (permalink) Out of request I attempted to get a video of the male carrying and him refusing food.  What wound up happening is the female was scared of the camera and ran back to the male (assumably to protect).  She usually is quite happy to abandon him during feeding, and was doing so prior to me brining the camera into the room.  At that point she refused to eat too and stayed right next to him.     #6 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:31 PM (permalink) The interesting thing I should point out for those who have observed Banggai and are trying to xreference them to PJs, in Banggai I have noticed that the longer secondary dorsal fin tends to be on the male.  In the case of my sole PJ pair, you can clearly see the banner fin is much longer on the female, in fact the male does not appear to have any at all.    I have found in Banggais that the male (given long enough time frame and proper nutrituion between spawns)..will develop a much longer banner fin...PJs seem to not hold this scenario at all...at least for the pair I am working with.   #7 mPedersen Total Posts : 3450 Reward points : 1376 Joined: 2/27/2009 Location: Duluth, MN, US Status: offline MBI: 4975 Pnts MBI Site: Lake Superior Marine Aquarium Club Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Monday, August 29, 2011 9:21 PM (permalink) Congrats on the next batch (be sure to update your journal opener with the new spawn date too)!   #8 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:40 AM (permalink) thx for the reminder   #9 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:41 AM (permalink) Well I got almost an identical repeat.  He seems to have lost the batch on the night of the 3rd.  I checked at 1am before going to bed, by morning he was empty and eating.  No sign of fry in the water.  I honestly think he is swallowing, but I am going to try Chad's collector on the next batch.    The one successful hatch I had there were several hundred in the water colum, and even the few I missed during siphoning were still floating around in the AM.    #10 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:12 AM (permalink) Didn't take them long, I woke up this morning (9/6/2011) and he was holding again.  I might move him around day 7 to a seperate tank.   #11 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:24 PM (permalink) So far so good, he is still holding at this moment, but this tends to be the night the eggs disappear.  I have the larvae trap in the tank with them and the flow is turned down.  His mouth is extremely buldged...so we will see what happens.   Just cleaned out the tank for the fry.   #12 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Friday, September 16, 2011 8:39 PM (permalink) Well another lost batch.  A bit confusing as he has release several times..and he seemed to be doing fine, but this morning he was empty, the trap was empty and no signs of eggs or fry.   #13 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:35 PM (permalink) spawn tonight...occurred between the 27th and 28th at night after I went to sleep, so probably after 2AM, 5 or more hours after lights out. <message edited by Caesra on Monday, October 3, 2011 11:58 PM>   #14 Hellaenergy Total Posts : 91 Reward points : 252 Joined: 6/15/2010 Location: Minneapolis, MN Status: offline MBI: 610 Pnts MBI Site: Twin Cities Marine Aquarium Society Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Friday, September 30, 2011 1:27 PM (permalink) Originally Posted by Caesra The last two attempts I attempted raising the fry in a 10g, and I am going to give it a whirl in a 15g feeding tub this time around.   How long after lights out did he release the fry?   Good luck on this next release. Live and Learn   #15 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:39 PM (permalink)  I only caught the tail end of one release, and that was about 4 hours after lights out.  The other successful release happened after I went to bed, which was about 2.5 hours after lights out an they had not released yet.  So I am guessing at this point around 3 hours or so after lights out.   #16 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Tuesday, October 4, 2011 12:01 AM (permalink) Well, his mouth has grown substantially and he looks like he is ready to bust.  I am debating stripping him, as my guessing that the substially enlarged mouth is always the result of hatching.  My Banggai's mouth always grows markedly when hatch has occurred.    This is the night of the cycle when they all seem to dissappear, but lately, by this point his mouth is shrinking, not growing.   I honestly did not spend much prep work this time around because of so many consecutive failed batches.  I setup two new cultures tonight.  If I had more rots or some reasonable alternative foods, such as apocolypse I might just go ahead and strip.   Regardless, I have reduce the flow through the tank and put up a sponge on the overflow.  I will watch over the next few hours and decide what to do.   #17 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Tuesday, October 4, 2011 12:02 AM (permalink) I can't take pics because I have left my camera at my store for the last week. =/   Additional, note.  The female was doing alot of biting alot at the male this morning.  Normally this is part of the behavior I see from her when she is preparing to release eggs, but she doesn't look swollen.   Also, seeing as how Reeds was so kind to send the Roti Complete, I have decided to use it the BRT with the fry.    #18 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Tuesday, October 4, 2011 1:21 PM (permalink) I opted to leave the eggs in his mouth, although they I did put the snagger in the tank.  I did not get to bed until about 5AM, so I figured if he had not released by that time he would hold.  I woke up this morning and he is still holding.   #19 Caesra Total Posts : 317 Reward points : 195 Joined: 7/4/2011 Location: Cherry Valley, IL, US Status: offline MBI: 80 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Sphaeramia nematoptera Wednesday, October 5, 2011 12:36 AM (permalink) Release started 1AM (4 hours post lights out) on 10/5/2011.  2 fry in snagger at this point, none seen in the water column.  These guys are releasing very small.  None seen in the water column at this point.   I highly doubt I will be able to raise these.  The last succesful release I had, the fry were at least 2x the size.   #20 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 37 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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