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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:32 PM
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I'm hoping they will hatch so I know FOR SURE that they are Dottybacks. These eggs are clear aside from a yolk in the middle that is fairly clear too.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Thursday, December 1, 2011 4:25 AM
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where does you male lay? I am still battling to get my male to brood, and am wondering if its because I am providing a smooth surface for them to lay on. It was actually Duck (Dale) who suggested that they may like something to attach the eggs to so they dont move as much, so I thought I would ask you  Thanks Alex
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Thursday, December 1, 2011 8:44 AM
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Well today the eggs still look good (a few white ones that I removed). However, the egg ball has broken apart and the eggs are floating around singly for the most part. I am thinking that there is some sort of decomposition going on that is causing the egg ball to lose its stickiness, so I imagine the eggs won't last much longer. I'm going to pull one out and look under a loupe. I will post pics if I can manage any. Zimajays, I haven't seen the eggs in the cave yet, so I'm not 100% sure where he is laying them. However, he does have "his" cave, and I assume they are in there. The tank is full of small pieces of live rock, rock rubble, shells, crushed coral, and aragonite sand. So it goes from real fine down at the bottom up to more coarse on the surface. I had a trio of Jawfish in there for awhile and they dug tunnels all over the place in there. One of those tunnels is where the male hangs out. It is fairly deep, and I can't see in it very well. I will try to get a pic for you. From what I understand they don't lay "on" anything, but these eggs are definitely very sticky! EDIT: I checked the eggs with my 100x and 40x loupe and there is clearly a fish larvae in the egg. I can make out eyes developing, and a tail (that doesn't look like a crustacean! ha). Optics are godawful in those loupes, so no way for a pic. I can't seem to get my USB mini-microscope to focus properly. What should I use for a background? I have tried white and black plastics, but doesn't work well. There are maybe 20 eggs that look good. I siphoned out any that looked questionable. I also dumped the water out of the hatchery and replaced with "new" tank water. Here is the best I can do for pics of his cave. The tank is only half full of water (about 6" of water) and dimly lit, so pics aren't too easy! The hole goes down about 3".  
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Thursday, December 1, 2011 9:47 AM
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I found this really cool photographic chart of Orchid Dottyback eggs:
 Originally Posted by Chatham K. Callan, Ph.D, Charles W. Laidley, Ph.D  Photomicrograph series depicting the normal embryonic development of the orchid dottyback ( Pseudochromis fridmani). Time = time post fertilization. A 20min; B 45min; C 90min; D 4h; E 8h; F 11h; G 14h; H 17h; I 19h; J 21h; K 24h; L 29h; M 34h; N 39h; O 45h; P 64h; Q 72h; R 91h; S 93h. Box grid on slide = 1mm. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2008/10/breeder According to this graph, my eggs look like M (maybe pushing N) which makes the eggs about 34+ hours post spawn.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:17 PM
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Thanks very helpful
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Friday, December 2, 2011 11:08 AM
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Wow, I have 6 larvae! I can`t believe that egg tumbler (kinda) worked! They are early though, so I wonder if the tumbler knocked them out of the eggs. They are moving though. I set up a 7 gallon BRT with 5 gallons in it. My rotifers look funny though, some are floating...they look ok under loupe (active). I got some pics, but no time for uploading right now.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Friday, December 2, 2011 11:10 AM
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Thats excellent, well done!!!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Friday, December 2, 2011 7:55 PM
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Thanks CaptCrash!  Can you guys see them? I can't get a decent pic on my microscope for the life of me!  
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Friday, December 2, 2011 7:59 PM
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Looking good.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Friday, December 2, 2011 8:17 PM
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Thanks Tal! Comparing my larvae to larvae in your Orchid Dotty thread mine don't look as developed as yours. I think it is probable that too high air flow knocked the larvae out of the eggs a day early. Probably not a good prognosis for them! I do still have ONE unhatched egg in the brine shrimp hatchery. Don't give up yet!!!! HAHA!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Sunday, January 1, 2012 12:19 PM
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I think I lost my female. I was messing around in the tank on the 23rd to remove the Banggai Cardinal and the pair of McCosker's Wrasses I was quarantining in there to put into my reef tank. I haven't seen her since. She's always been very, very shy though so maybe she is just upset and hiding. That's a long time to not see her come out for food though. I checked her favourite shells and she wasn't in any of them though.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Sunday, January 1, 2012 12:55 PM
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I hope you find her. I hate losing anything!
RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Sunday, January 1, 2012 2:26 PM
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thanks Glen, but I think she's a goner. I am emptying the tank today, and haven't been able to find her. Can't find a body though either and there aren't many scavengers in the tank. There are a ton of hiding places in the tank though, so I'm worried that I might miss her. Maybe I will leave the tank running for another week.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Sunday, January 1, 2012 2:35 PM
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I had a neon goby end up popping out of a rock that I searched and searched before. I hope you have luck finding it.
RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Sunday, January 1, 2012 2:48 PM
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The rock in there is just small stuff...I put a few pieces in my live rock bin, and a few in the broodstock tanks. I hope I didn't put her in the live rock bin! The rock is so small though that I'm sure I would have heard her flopping around in it because I left it on the counter for 10 minutes first to listen for her. Same with all the shells.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Monday, March 12, 2012 8:17 AM
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Well, I never did find her. I purchased another small wild caught Orchid Dottyback February 20th and had her in quarantine for a week (she was in a small tank at the dealer's by herself for a couple months). I moved her to a 20 gallon tank with my Perc pair (not breeding) in the broodstock system Feb 26th. I moved the male over to her tank on March 4th. They have been getting along well, no ripped fins. This female is much more bold than the last female, I see her all the time. I will make a new breeding journal on their first spawn and will post a link here.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Sunday, April 1, 2012 3:35 PM
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Well, no action yet, but I want to post some pics of the new female because she looks gravid, and I don't want to jinx myself by creating a new journal for the new pair. This female is very bold, she comes right up to the glass to beg for food like the clownfish do. The male doesn't chase this one as much as he chased the old female. He never did do any damage to the old female though, he is a good man. Female:  Male:  
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Monday, May 21, 2012 11:58 AM
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Well, I found an egg mass from this new pair today (it could have been there yesterday), so I will make a new journal for them. I have a feeling they have spawned already, and I just haven't seen the eggs. They have been together and getting along for too long to not have spawned already. Plus the female has appeared gravid on a few occasions. Breeding journal with new female: http://www.mbisite.org/Fo...1487&mpage=1#71487
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Monday, May 21, 2012 12:08 PM
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beautiful pictures. She sure does look gravid.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
Monday, May 21, 2012 12:50 PM
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Thanks Kathy, I took those pics April 1st when I first noticed the female becoming gravid. I took a lot of pics to get those decent ones. Hehe
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