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•  Breeding Journal, Species: Paracanthurus hepatus

  Change Page: < 12345678 > | Showing page 3 of 8, messages 41 to 60 of 141 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Reports tied to this Journal Spawn: http://www.mbisite.org/SReview.aspx?ID=293 Hatch: http://www.mbisite.org/HReview.aspx?ID=198 Author Message CableGuy Total Posts : 591 Reward points : 731 Joined: 8/26/2010 Location: Saint Clair Shores, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 635 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Tuesday, November 29, 2011 2:45 PM (permalink) Love the pics! Great job so far! -Adam   #41 JimWelsh Total Posts : 1426 Reward points : 1486 Joined: 1/22/2010 Location: Angwin, CA, US Status: offline MBI: 1845 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:01 PM (permalink) Originally Posted by justreefinit possibly add some salina moina to that list? granted that the adults would be farly too large to eat but the newly born one may do the trick just an idea i know that when i was raising celestial peral danios i had to culture paramecium for the fry   Even very young Moina salina are WAY too big.   What you really need are some pelagic copepods with small nauplii, like Parvocalanus or Bestiolina.  Any chance you can go to the ocean and do some plankton tows?       #42 luis a m Total Posts : 451 Reward points : 1249 Joined: 3/15/2011 Location: Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, AR Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:53 PM (permalink) I think we can be optimistic,either if the rumour posted in Reef Builders results to be true or not. If it was true,we can expect to achieve the same. If it was not,it means that P.hepatus was never raised,and also probably never attempted to be raised.Which let´s us hope that it might be not so difficult as their yellow tang relatives,which keep challenging the guys from the OI since some years!.If it was never tried,perhaps it is not difficult.   #43 aomont Total Posts : 774 Reward points : 1003 Joined: 2/12/2011 Location: Rio de Janeiro, RJ, BR Status: offline MBI: 5 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:09 PM (permalink) Originally Posted by luis a m If it was never tried,perhaps it is not difficult.   It was tried but the researchers failed at the time. Effects of marine ciliates on survivability of the first-feeding larval surgeonfish, Paracanthurus hepatus : Laboratory rearing experiments. Anderson.   #44 luis a m Total Posts : 451 Reward points : 1249 Joined: 3/15/2011 Location: Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, AR Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:59 PM (permalink) Hmm,ciliates again...Got the link?   #45 CaptCrash Total Posts : 660 Reward points : 1296 Joined: 10/23/2011 Location: Perth, WA, AU Status: offline MBI: 2050 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:38 PM (permalink) I have the link to http://www.springerlink.com/content/l118n34n1m04477j/ I am being a bit cheap and I have not purchased it as yet. At this stage, other than dumping a bucket in the ocean and using what comes out, I have not really got any further with finding foods for them.   This mornings picture   Should I be expecting the eyes to pigment more than this?   #46 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:44 PM (permalink) Stunning work! I'm so glad you're sharing this with everyone. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #47 CaptCrash Total Posts : 660 Reward points : 1296 Joined: 10/23/2011 Location: Perth, WA, AU Status: offline MBI: 2050 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:17 AM (permalink) Its another iphone/camera screen video.  This time its of the heart beating of a prolarvae.     #48 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:24 AM (permalink) Dang! I guess I better go with an iPhone now. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #49 aomont Total Posts : 774 Reward points : 1003 Joined: 2/12/2011 Location: Rio de Janeiro, RJ, BR Status: offline MBI: 5 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:33 AM (permalink) Originally Posted by CaptCrash I have the link to http://www.springerlink.com/content/l118n34n1m04477j/ I am being a bit cheap and I have not purchased it as yet. All you need is a PM with your e-mail. It works for you too Luis. Just ask and it will show up Anderson.   #50 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:08 AM (permalink) I love reading your updates CaptCrash!  I can't believe the creativity you have put into getting photos!   The ciliates that are attacking the dead eggs appear to be about the right size...provided the ciliates can be captured by the larvae (those ciliates are fast!), maybe they would work....?   You may need a permit to do plankton tows in the ocean, or you may not be allowed to do it at all.  I'm not familiar with Australian laws.   #51 CaptCrash Total Posts : 660 Reward points : 1296 Joined: 10/23/2011 Location: Perth, WA, AU Status: offline MBI: 2050 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:20 AM (permalink) Latest developments for the Prolarvae               RIP, this little guy   Have had quite the die off tonight, interestingly all of the die off prolarvae resemble the image above of the dead one. Approx 12 remain, these all look more developed, with buds of fins developing.  Some of these look to be not very well and I don't expect them to make the morning.   I have descided not to bother with the feeding test, in stead, I have divided them into two groups.   group 1, remains in the existing container but has had 500ml of water removed and was replaced by parent tank water. group 2, is in a new container with 500ml of the existing water.   Both groups have equal number of prolarvae in about the same condition.   Next time, I will start to add food once the eyes are nearly developed (eg, 12 hours earlier) so that they can hunt earlier.   #52 CableGuy Total Posts : 591 Reward points : 731 Joined: 8/26/2010 Location: Saint Clair Shores, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 635 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:59 AM (permalink) Wow! Amazing shots! Keep up the great work! -Adam   #53 luis a m Total Posts : 451 Reward points : 1249 Joined: 3/15/2011 Location: Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, AR Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:28 PM (permalink) This is a DOA!.Dead when they just become larvae.Eyes are getting refringent and pectoral fins show. If we date them in days,eggs laid sunday night,monday is day one,etc.My prolarvae are fine until day two when they die looking like yours.But yours lasted longer in good health,right?. This is why I defined 3 stages,we have 1st to obtain lots of healthy larvae and later start the raising game.   #54 CaptCrash Total Posts : 660 Reward points : 1296 Joined: 10/23/2011 Location: Perth, WA, AU Status: offline MBI: 2050 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:45 PM (permalink) Today, we are down to just a few still living. In the container that received a water change of 500ml, all dead In container that still has original water, mostly dead   I don't think that the water change is to blame, I think its just time for these guys.       Rotifers for size reference     I have been able to order some copepods (unknown species) and will be getting a plankton tow performed by a local reefer next week. Once I have both of these, Ill try to time collection of a spawn to match.  Then it will be round two.   #55 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:39 PM (permalink) Aw, that last one looks like he has a sad face!  Good luck on the next batch!    #56 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:46 PM (permalink) Do you have pics of the adults in your tank? http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #57 CaptCrash Total Posts : 660 Reward points : 1296 Joined: 10/23/2011 Location: Perth, WA, AU Status: offline MBI: 2050 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:32 AM (permalink) Mum and Dad (front)   #58 CaptCrash Total Posts : 660 Reward points : 1296 Joined: 10/23/2011 Location: Perth, WA, AU Status: offline MBI: 2050 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Thursday, December 1, 2011 12:19 PM (permalink) All larvae have now perished. The last three hung on for another 12 hours past the morning photos. They then died whilst I was attempting to catch them in a pipette. Quite a bit has been learned so far. Once u have some food sources to try, I'll collect another hatch and try again. Thanks for reading   #59 sgraber Total Posts : 23 Reward points : 133 Joined: 9/13/2011 Location: Middlebury, IN, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re: Breeding Journal, Species: [Paracanthurus hepatus] Thursday, December 1, 2011 3:56 PM (permalink) Originally Posted by CaptCrash  Nope, its a digital SLR and an older one at that. Here is a couple of pictures of how I am storing the prolarvae (its a container of water with a light). And of the camera, macro lens and extension tubes.   Wait...you have a Makerbot?  Which one?  Thing-o-matic or Cupcake?  Cupcake user here!     Shane   (btw thanks Tal for PM'ing me with this thread link!)   #60 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: < 12345678 > | Showing page 3 of 8, messages 41 to 60 of 141 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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