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Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:23 PM
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Breeding Journal DataSheet This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma Social Structure: Male / Female pair Size of Individuals: Appx. 2" Age of Individuals: Unknown Date added to Tank: 11/29/2011 Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank: 29 Gallons Substrate Details: Live sand Filtration Details: HOB Bio-Wheel filter Water Changes: Generally, frequent and fairly large, as this tank has no Clean Up Crew. About 15-25% every 2-3 days or so. Water Temperature: 77 - 80 F Lighting: Fluorescent strip light Lighting Cycle: Manual - Appx. 16 H on / 8 H off Other Tank Inhabitants: None Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types: Various Frozen foods. Mostly Spirulina Brina and Marine Cuisine, but with PE Mysis and Squid at first to induce spawning. The female is also often fed leftover Nutrimar Ova from my Pipefish feedings. Also, Spectrum pellets and C2 TDO, from time to time. Feeding Schedule: 2-4 times a day. Perhaps even 5-6 times a day on weekends, when I'm home all day. My goal is to feed them small amounts, very often. Spawning Details Date of First Spawn: 1/12/2012 Spawn Time of Day: Unknown. Sometime between 10:00 AM and 5:00 PM. Dates of Consecutive Spawns: 1/25/2012 @ 9:30 AM, 2/5/2012 @ 2:00 PM, 2/17/2012 @ 10:30 AM, 2/29/2012 @ 10:00 AM Courtship Details: They "face off" at the tank divider quite regularly. The male displays quite intense colors. The female attempts to attack the male through the divider. They really seem to want to kill each other. I keep them separated most of the time, but let them get together for a few minutes every few days. NOTE: The day of the actual spawn, all aggression disappears. They almost act as though they actually like each other! Egg Size: Appx. 1 mm. Round. Egg Color: Kind of a pinkish/orangish white. Egg Count: Unknown. Probably between 100-200. Subsequent spawns had more eggs -- several hundred. Hatch Details Hatch Date: First hatch was 2/9/2012. Second hatch was 2/21/2012. Hatch Time of Day: Appx. 10:00 PM, shortly after lights out. # Days after Spawn: 4 Larvae Description: Long, thin, appx. 1mm long, with prominent eyes. Larval Tank Details Temperature: 78-80 F Size of Larval Tank: Appx. 15 gallons capacity BRT Substrate Details: None Other Tank Decor: None Filtration Details: None Lighting: Fluorescent strip light Lighting Cycle: Initially, 24/7 Water Changes: None at first. Larval Feeding Details Food Types: Apocyclops panamensis, all life stages, continuously available at first. Feeding Schedule: Constant at first. Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start: Days after Hatch: Date of Settlement End: Description of Fry: Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature: Size of Grow-Out Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Size at Transfer: Age at Transfer: Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Additional Information (No Pictures or Videos in the Section Please) Miscellaneous Information: You will be required to provide photographic or video evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program. If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports. PHOTOS AND VIDEO S MUST BE PLACED IN ADDITIONAL POSTS, NEVER IN THE FIRST POST IN A JOURNAL.
<message edited by JimWelsh on Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:19 PM>
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:30 PM
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I managed to pounce on this rare pair of P. tapeinosoma from Diver's Den last Wednesday! They arrived in great condition today (no surprise, with Diver's Den fish). They are hardly settled in yet, and the water hasn't even cleared from some sand stirring I did today, but thought I'd get a couple of pics taken today, just to document that I really did get these (there was another person who posted in Matt's blog that she had purchased them {insert troll image here}). Based on Matt's experience with these, I have chosen to keep them separated using a tank divider. I have a nice tight-fitting glass lid, too, since there is apparently a tendency for these to jump, and I have also not filled the tank entirely, to make jumping more of a challenge. Here is their new home: They are spending most of their time in their PVC pipe caves right now, but do come out to greet / face off each other from time to time: Here is the best image of the male I could get tonight:
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:34 PM
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SWEET!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:09 AM
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Very nice! I'm glad everything worked out.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:31 AM
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Oh, good luck Jim! Very nice!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Sunday, December 11, 2011 6:12 PM
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Any updates Jim? Cheers!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Friday, December 30, 2011 2:12 PM
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Update: I've had them for a little more than a month now. The female is getting nice and fat, and I think she may be getting ready to spawn soon. Her appetite is very good, and she is eating like a pig. They continue to spend a lot of time confronting each other at the divider. She frequently tries to attack him through the divider when he is there, and they both swim back and forth along the divider, "following" or "chasing" each other. A few times I've opened the gate between their sides. Sometimes he ends up on her side, in which case she attacks him over and over again, swimming very quickly out from her PVC cave to attack, then returning to her cave, only to attack again in a few seconds. More often, she ends up on his side, where he alternates between parallel swimming next to her, and attacking her, but his attacks aren't as vigorous as hers are against him. In any event, the "trespasser" is invariably too traumatized by the attacks to find their way back through the gate into their own half of the aquarium, and I have to net them to put them back.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:28 PM
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Stealing from Matt's post about a closely related species on another breeding site: EGGS EGGS EGGS EGGS EGGS!!! The female has been looking quite gravid for the last week or so. My wife and I went away for a brief vacation Monday and Tuesday nights. On Sunday, I let the female into the male's side of the tank, but he just harassed her. Last night, after we got back from the vacation, she was looking really, really ripe, so I let her out again. This time, the male was MUCH nicer to her, and kept leading her to his PVC pipes, and she even went once, but came out right away, and she kept just trying to get away from him. After about 10 minutes, he started getting frustrated with her, and started attacking her, so I netted her and put her back on her side. I was planning on letting her out again tonight, but when I got home from work, there was this large egg mass on the outside of her PVC pipes. Guess I timed this one poorly, and they probably have some learning to do, but I'm getting closer. In Matt's case, with P. cyanotaenia, it was almost a whole month before his female laid eggs the second time. I hope I don't have to wait that long! I'll just feed her tons (like I've been doing) and see how it goes.
<message edited by JimWelsh on Friday, January 13, 2012 12:10 AM>
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:38 PM
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at least you're catching things now. Hopefully next time!!!!
RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:36 PM
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good luck Jim - you'll pull this off!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:43 PM
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BTW Jim, did you get the second pair, or are you still just operating with one?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Thursday, January 12, 2012 10:05 PM
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Friday, January 13, 2012 11:42 PM
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How are those eggs lookin' tonight? Anything under the scope?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:03 AM
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Nothing but sad news, Matt. I see nothing that looks like embryos developing. I'll keep them tumbling, but so far, no joy.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Monday, January 23, 2012 2:10 PM
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She is looking kinda, but not terribly, gravid today, so I let the "gate" open for the first time since the last spawn. Interesting, different behavior today. He immediately started to "lead" her to his PVC caves, and after just a few seconds, she followed. Next, she became the dominant, aggressive one, and she was chasing him from his PVC pipes! He was very, very, very interested in her, flashing intense colors, but was also having to be timid and cautious, as she kept attacking him from the safety of his own caves. She chased him from one cave to the next, and he played "keep away", until finally, she let him enter the same pipe as she was in. They stayed together in the same pipe for probably 15-20 seconds, and then she came out, and was wanting to get back onto her side of the divider again. He was still leading her back to his caves, and he was showing very little aggression towards her. I netted her and put her back. No eggs layed today. Let's see what tomorrow brings!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:08 PM
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Yesterday: Basically, a repeat of yesterday. Today: FERTILIZED EGGS!!!! FERTILIZED EGGS!!!! This morning, their behavior was very unusual. Both of them came out and greeted me at the glass. The male usually does that when he's hungry, but the female is always pretty skittish. Today, both of them came out and stayed out at the glass all excited. I tried feeding them, but neither was interested in food. She was looking pretty gravid, so, I opened the gate for them.... They both were swimming up, down, back, forth along the divider, but at first she didn't go through the gate. The male now knows that the open gate PVC is where she appears from, and kept watching for her, but when she didn't make her appearance, he went through to her side. THERE WAS NO AGGRESSION! They simply chased each other in and out of her PVC caves. It appeared as though they were being friendly with each other! After watching this for just a minute or two, I netted him and put him back on his side of the divider, though, since I didn't want the eggs laid in her territory. Just a few minutes later, she was on his side of the divider. Again NO AGGRESSION! After everything I've seen with these two before, it was hard to believe my eyes. He kept leading her to the PVC cave with the one end capped, and it took several minutes of them both switching between the different caves, and him clearly leading her to the capped cave where he wanted her to lay, but they finally both went into that cave and stayed in there together for almost half an hour. Once she came out and was trying to get back home, he stayed in the capped PVC cave. I netted her and put her back on her side. Very shortly after that, I noticed a small egg ball laying on the sand outside of any cave. He was still hanging out in the capped PVC cave, but I looked with a flashlight, and there are no more eggs. This egg ball is probably about 1/2 to 2/3 the size of the last one she laid. I quickly set up the tumbler, and have the eggs tumbling now: I was really hoping that the male would tend the eggs, but such is life.... I'll have to see what I can do with them with the tumbler. The last egg ball, which was not fertilized, stayed together quite nicely for several days in the tumbler, so we'll see how this one does as the eggs develop. Since this is such a small egg ball, I'm disinclined to examine any of the eggs with the scope. I think I'll simply observe them as they tumble, and see what color changes and other developmental changes I can observe with the naked eye. Wish me luck. I've still got a LONG way to go with these, but at least now I know a few more things about them. First, they do appear to like to spawn mid-morning. Second, when she is ready, I'll really know it, because of the absence of any aggression on the part of either one. Third, this spawn was 13 days since the first spawn, and that gives me an idea of how often to expect the spawns.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:12 PM
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that's awesome! keep us updated!
RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:25 PM
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Do you plan on keeping them together? I'd be very cautious. Just because they aren't showing aggression now doesn't mean it will stay that way. I found out the hard way.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:33 PM
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Good heavens, NO! The thought never entered my mind.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Pseudochromis tapeinosoma
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:48 PM
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Congrats. Next time leave the egg ball with the male, just to see...he may well have put it back into the tube. I'd be concerned personally about using air to tumble...it seems WATER works better in marine artificial incubation.
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