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Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:03 PM
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Breeding Journal DataSheet
This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species: Pterapogon kauderni Social Structure: Size of Individuals: Age of Individuals: Date added to Tank: Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank: Substrate Details: Filtration Details: Water Changes: Water Temperature: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Other Tank Inhabitants: Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Spawning Details Date of First Spawn: Spawn Time of Day: Dates of Consecutive Spawns: Courtship Details: Egg Size: Egg Color: Egg Count: Hatch Details Hatch Date: Hatch Time of Day: # Days after Spawn: Larvae Description: Larval Tank Details Temperature: Size of Larval Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Larval Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start: Days after Hatch: Date of Settlement End: Description of Fry:
Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature: Size of Grow-Out Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Size at Transfer: Age at Transfer: Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Additional Information (No Pictures or Videos in the Section Please) Miscellaneous Information: You will be required to provide photographic or video evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program.
If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports. PHOTOS AND VIDEO S MUST BE PLACED IN ADDITIONAL POSTS, NEVER IN THE FIRST POST IN A JOURNAL.
<message edited by Chelle's Ocean on Monday, January 9, 2012 5:37 PM>
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Monday, December 26, 2011 11:23 AM
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? none of what I am typing in this journal is saving?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:25 PM
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General Species: Pterapogon kauderni Social Structure: Mated pair, stay very close to each other Size of Individuals: Male: 2-3" tail to nose, female slightly smaller (need to get accurate measurement though) Age of Individuals: Unknown Date added to Tank: December 21, 2011 ----- Ok, lol...my day just keeps getting better and better  My journal is not saving. Any info anyone would like to provide, please give it a shot. My browser isn't blocking anything that I know of, I can type/add to others' posts...but the journal as soon as I click SAVE...it's gone. So I am going to do it on paper then fill it all in when I get it to save. Odd I know, but that seems to be how things are going after the holidays, lol.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:02 PM
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Worked for me...
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Tuesday, December 27, 2011 7:15 PM
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lol- wt*? This is so laughable at this point, considering my day- that I will sign off. I see where you added Tal, and I jumped on it thinking Cool.. Tal got in, let me slide right in there! Nope... lol- it flashes, I can see all of what I put- then immediately goes to the blank post (now with the species name) I give up- time for a cocktail if I drank, lol... Good night all. I will trouble shoot tomorrow, but for an update: Banggai's are doing well- eating well. They are coming to the front of the tank when I come into the room for feeding- no more scooting behind the rocks...which is cool because I want to see them eat Setting up a new tank for them- pictures to follow tomorrow So looks like I can post to my thread, just not my journal for now. Stay tuned, Same Fish News..Same Fish Station, lol yep, time for bed, I am officially delirious
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:39 PM
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No luck - haven't got a clue as to how I was able to add to my previous journal..but not this one. Not meant for me to have a journal yet, I guess Will keep writing/taking photos- and update when the good stuff happens, lol. Tried my home and work computers. Odd indeed
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:14 PM
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What Browser are you using?
Chad Penney - MBI Council Agis quod Adis
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:38 PM
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Internet Explorer. Checked cookies. Restarted computer again as suggested earlier. Tried entering the Date I added the fish as a test...nothing again. Very odd.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:37 PM
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:40 PM
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If the female looks like her belly is a very faint color (pink) very faint...does this mean she may be holding eggs? Or that she is well fed? Or something altogether different?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Friday, December 30, 2011 9:33 PM
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According to this : http://www.breedersregistry.org/Articles/v4_i4_marini/marini.htm I think I am watching a mating dance! Crap I have to wait til tomorrow to run and get batteries darnit! But excited all the same even if it's not, lol. Just got them moved into their new tank this evening, have been adjusting the heat/light..and the flow. Not sure if I should move the filter - or leave it as is and add a nano size powerhead to gently sway the algae on the opposite end of the tank. I will be taking the batteries out of the remote controls soon as the kid and hubby go to bed, hahaha... pics coming soon of my pretty pair
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Friday, December 30, 2011 9:46 PM
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that's awesome!!! I need some babies!!!! lol
RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:02 AM
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When I get my nursery tank set up I will let you know Just checked on them- they are doing fine this morning. (ended up going to bed around midnight? As hubby and the kiddo had 3 different tv's going at the same time last night- grrr grabbing batteries by the bulk load today hahaha) Hope to see the "dance" on camera
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Monday, January 9, 2012 6:05 PM
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If you still can't edit this journal try starting a new one. You can have more than one journal for any species. It's only reports that can only be filed once per species.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Friday, January 13, 2012 5:19 PM
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Tal- I just saw the above message- thank you- I will try that
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:54 AM
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 I exchanged a filter last night, to see the flow I would get- and placed it on the Banggai's tank, flow was good, not turbulent, it was placed at the left side of the tank-flowing longways across to the right-where I have the sandbed/macro algae. All was good. Went to bed. Woke up this morning, and one of the Banggai's (the female from what I can see) is stressed, leaning on her side resting on a bed of macro. Top fin looks shredded like she was in a fight? The other one(male) is clear on the other side of the tank, sleeping behind the rocks. Only thing I can think of, is maybe she lodged herself between a rock and the intake of the filter?... but it isn't even that strong- it was what I had in the picasso tank.- Very odd. So now I am getting ready to leave for the day (work) and not sure if I should remove her, keep her in the tank (have turned the filter off just in case), not sure if the male would have done this- they have been so perfect since day 1. So odd. She just looks stressed. (?)
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:23 AM
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Correction: it is the male I have taken both out and placed in a small emergency tank for the day- will see what happens after work, I am leaning towards the filter as the culprit. I just hope he calms down. Very dark in color, leaning to one side due to one of his fins torn I think, and labored breathing. Sucky way to start my day...I will be worrying about them alllll day ...
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:36 AM
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Aww that stinks. I hope they are ok!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:12 PM
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Had my son check this afternoon after school....and I confirmed this evening after work: the male died. I am sad. It breaks my heart when I lose one of my fish And of course I am beating myself up about having changed the stupid filter, - that is the only thing I can think of that is the cause, the few people I spoke with briefly- all say the same thing- the female wouldn't have done it. Just so sad. No other damage, other than the top fin being shredded/gone. And the coloration- but that is due to stress...but from what? So- now I am contemplating on how to find her a new male. I do not want to put more than one in the tank and have her attacked in any way. I am - of course- getting rid of the possibility of the filter doing the same thing, I am putting a guard around it. But the intake is not strong, that is what is so darn puzzling.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: [Pterapogon kauderni]
Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:40 AM
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Ok.... so I was told the best way to introduce a new male is to put them both in the same tank, with a divider until they seem they are ok with each other. Going to do this. I (was) going to wait until we move. But I do not want to wait- I was enjoying this pair so much- I want to have them. Question- how many is too many in a tank of what size? I just picked up a new magazine while at dinner last night, (thumbing thru it while waiting for our food,  low and behold our waiter is a reefer! haha) and I always see photos of large groups of Banggais..... in a 20L - how many can safely be kept. I am thinking just 1 pair, right? But in a 55 gallon.... can I keep a group of say...3 pairs? Is that too much? I would like to have a small community of them, but I do not want to overcrowd them. Any opinions out there this morning?
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