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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:13 AM
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New hatch tonight, it was massive, 1 Fry  . This seems to be a regular occurrence with this pair. Each hatch so far there has been 1 or 2 fry the night before the main hatch. Has anyone else had this happen?
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:55 AM
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I noticed a couple of the fish in grow out from the first batch of these are starting to look more and more like mini versions of the adult. They are getting noticeably taller and now look more cinnamon shaped.
Colour has also improved with the brown now being softer and less abrupt (almost shaded) on the sides of the fish and a quite bright yellow/orange stripe across the top of the fish. A small white dot is present (part of a tail band?) towards the tail.
Ill try and get some photos of these guys tomorrow or the next night, its amazing how much change has occurred in only a few days.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:03 AM
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all fry have now hatched. Close to 250 would be my best guess.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:41 AM
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These guys are really stunning to look at, the colour is a bit off in these shots. The orange is a very brilliant orange more like the colour of the fishes tail in the second shot, across all of the orange in the fish. These guys range from 15mm to 20mm now.  
<message edited by CaptCrash on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:02 AM>
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:46 AM
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Big failure today. I managed to kill an entire tank of grow out fish.
The entire batch of these guys didn't make it plus a large nest of Perc's. About 200 fish in total.
I somehow managed to turn off the pump and remove the air line for the tank and then leave it hat way for 24 hours.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:22 PM
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Sucks to hear you lost the batch, but you'll get another chance at it yet!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Friday, February 17, 2012 4:42 AM
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Great news, I just found one of these guys in the other side of the grow out tank.
Some how he either jumped or got moved by accident.
It doesn't make up for the stupid mistake, but at least I can grow this one up and have something to show for all of the effort.
I have a feeling he is about to become the most photographed of all my fish.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, April 8, 2012 4:25 AM
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This is the loan survivor from my air line error. Growing well compared to A.percula, a bit slow compaired to A.frenatus. Was at 60 days post settlement today.  
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, April 8, 2012 11:59 AM
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Great looking fish. Just so you know - You're not the only "idiot" to turn off a pump and forget to turn it back on, in turn killing some fish. My dumb mistake was about 100 fish. 
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, April 8, 2012 12:10 PM
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I really like this little guy, it would be great if the white shape on his dorsal fins remained, but I'm not expecting it to.
He is a bit of a loaner in with all of the percs and tends to swim between both groups in the tank. At times he mingles with them (night in a ball).
I think he is a bit sick on me catching him for photos. Though he tends to be a bit resigned to being caught these days and often just swims into the net or near it.
Once he is in the small tank I use for photos, he is quite calm and the light doesnt seem to bother him.
Between him and my three little occy's I have some favorites for all the little ones.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, April 8, 2012 2:51 PM
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Im pretty sure the white spot on its fins will fade away. Some of my cinnamons had the extra lines and marks for a short time and others have held on to them for six months now.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Friday, April 13, 2012 9:31 AM
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Hey Capt! Congrats on these. I like your photo setup. I used to do about the same, but I'm now to the point that I hand-hold all my fishy macro shots. Especially with a ring flash out at the end, it's really easy to over-ride the what the Canon lighting meter wants with manual setup. Let me know if you are interested in hearing the story.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Friday, April 13, 2012 12:36 PM
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I'm defiantly interested, lighting is one of my biggest struggles. Any hints would be appreciated
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Friday, April 13, 2012 1:18 PM
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Sounds good. Sorry if I get long-winded but I think getting the concepts helps. (BTW, I don't use a ring flash. I use Canon's double headed flash mounted on the end of the lens, but the principles are the same.) First of all, I spent a lot of time trying to figure out the motivations of the guys who wrote the code for the internal light meter. If you consider normal low-light photography (remember that they have normal point-and-click shooters in mind), what really looks amateurish? One of the worst is to see a picture of someone where the flash overwhelms the natural light and the background turns all black. Plus, if the flash is consistently putting out a ton of output the battery life is going to be next-to-(nothing) and if people are constantly changing batteries then they are going to go on Facebook and complain about short battery life. So, my theory is that the software guys wrote the code for the light meter to be inherently conservative, favoring just using the flash as a fill-light as much as possible and trying to get as many flashes per battery as possible. Does that make sense? The problem is that, when you start taking macro photos, these aren't the best parameters for the light meter. First, any light at all is precious so you want the flash to give it all it has every shot and damn the battery life. Second, when your subject is that close to the flash then any flash at all--even low power--is going to overwhelm the natural light and blacken the background. Personally, I'm okay with blackening out the background for most shots, especially when that choice makes my life so much easier. You have to make that choice for yourself but I'd bet that, given your avatar photo, that you'd often agree with me.  Given that I'm fine with the black background, the only problem that I still face is to figure out a way to get around the auto settings for the flash. You pretty much have to go to full manual settings to get this to work, but even on full manual the Canon software still tries to be as conservative as possible and the light meter information inside the view finder is based on using the flash solely as a fill light. What I've found is that when I ignore the light meter settings completely and just set the manual controls (f stop, exposure, and ISO) to settings that shouldn't work (fast exposure, high f stop, and low ISO) because the image should be incredibly under-exposed, the camera seems to go into last-resort mode and tries like hell to salvage your image by giving you a full-power shot from the flash. Success! At that point, you have to keep checking the image preview on the LCD to see if you are getting images that are exposed enough to use. But most of the time I find that the images are entirely adequate and sometimes I even have to make the exposure much faster to avoid over-exposure. And what does that all mean for me? Honestly, it means that I've almost completely given up using a tripod for macrophotography because I can often get fast enough exposures that I don't need it, even with the razor thin depth-of-field at high magnification. I normally handhold my shots even at magnifications of 4x-5x life size. (BTW, I learned much of this technique from the insect guys over at the Fred Miranda forums. Highly worth checking out if you have the time. Bugs are hard to shoot, so their techniques are quite interesting.) So, for example, this was shot hand-held, and shows a wrasse embryo on left, probably a copepod naup (the fuzzy bit) in center, and adult copepod on right. That's all one shot, not a montage. I'm not sure about the magnification any longer, but maybe 3x-4x lifesize. 
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Saturday, April 14, 2012 9:38 PM
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Thanks for the info.
I much prefer and explanation as it lets me determine how I could adapt the process when things don't match.
This is a great example of it. I'm using a ring light, (its says ring flash on the box) but it does not flash, it's constantly on.
Its interesting that you are able to get this good of a result without a tripod, that seems to be something worth trying, I'll just need some more light to do it.
A question, with your flash, can you set the high output intensity on the flash body? With my regular flash I have the option of TTL, low or high power. My understanding is that this lets you manually control the flash to be high output rather than letting the camera do it with the TTL setting. In this mode I thought that you would be able to use a more automatic setting like aperture priority for example. I haven't tried this as my flash is useless for macro, so my comments may be a waste of time.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, April 15, 2012 12:43 AM
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I think that an always-on light will cause you problems because the shortness of a traditional flash often helps to freeze the action. (It sounds to me like you have a light that's intended to be used with microscopes, not cameras.) Often the duration of the flash is shorter than the shutter speed itself (shutters are pretty slow, honestly). So I'm not sure that this technique will help you out. But you can even try this out with the built in flash. You just need to make something that'll let you direct the light of the flash out past the lens and onto the subject (since often the lens will cast a shadow onto the subject because the lens is so long and the subject is so close). White index cards are pretty good for this. But that's just an option. I can control a whole lot of stuff on my flash body, but I haven't really messed with it too much (other than when trying to synch it much faster than normal so I could try to take pictures of water droplets). The technique I described works so well that I haven't tried too much.
 Originally Posted by that seems to be something worth trying, I'll just need some more light to do it. It's not more light you need, honestly. As I said, even low-powered flashes can overwhelm macro subjects because you are so very close. Essentially, that's what I have: two low-powered flashes. You just need what light you have to be where you need it most and have it synched right.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Umm_fish?
Originally Posted by I'll just need some more light to do it. I meant, that with the flash on the body or add on flash, they cast a massive shadow so I was thinking more about getting an extension cable for the flash so it can be positioned separately. That way the flash will provide more light for a short period of time without the shadow. Then I can try what you are talking about I didnt really explain what I was thinking about very well.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:35 AM
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Not at all. I just wanted to make sure that we were still on the same page. I'm happy you're going to try this out. I really like looking at the pictures you take and I'd be really happy if this meant you could take them more easily, since it would mean that I'd hopefully get to see more of them.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Amphiprion melanopus
Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:38 AM
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ha ha, dont wory, Im not likely to stop spamming the forum with my pics any time soon.
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