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  Change Page: 12345 > | Showing page 1 of 5, messages 1 to 20 of 89 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Author Message EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Monday, January 9, 2012 10:15 AM (permalink) 0 Ok, so apparently I have made some mistakes on my previous batches.  The fish love it, albeit they aren't keen on the greens I added to the last batch (spinach and red Ocean Nutrition seaweed).  This mix is for my several clownfish pairs (no one is spawning yet), Banggai, Dottybacks...   I definitely don't want to mix in prepared fish foods like brine shrimp, mysis, flake, etc as I like to feed these separately as I think varying the meals is important or the fish get picky.  I add Selcon and garlic drops to each feeding rather than in the mix.  I really like to use gelatin as a binder, and haven't read any reason to not include it, if anyone knows different please speak up!  Most of the seafood I can get is frozen simply because of my location.  Fresh seafood aside from fish filets is quite expensive here.    I think I would like to make my mix of human grade seafood meats only, and would prefer to feed nori on a veggie clip that they can munch on during the day while I'm away.  Comments?   Here's my plan for my next batch, please comment!  LMK if I should have larger or smaller quantities of something.      About 30% raw white shrimp (51-60 count), peeled, swimmerettes on. Other 70% is equal-ish parts of:   Frozen squid Frozen baby scallops (pricey, have to find it on sale) Frozen capelin roe (I have to rinse the orange dye out of it) Frozen pollock filets (they were on sale this week, so grabbed a package) Fresh, live clams (the water is always gross...is it really a good idea to buy these live?)   1 packet of Knox unflavoured gelatin per 2 cups food mix. I want to add salmon as well as I'm told it is very good to add (carotenoids and Oemga 3??), not sure what kind.  I see Sockeye, Atlantic, and Pacific.  I see Pacific is cheaper, and on sale all the time.  Atlantic is on sale right now.  Rarely see Sockeye on sale.  Which should I get?  Does it matter?   #1 rgrking Total Posts : 712 Scores: 22 Reward points : 446 Joined: 4/8/2011 Location: Sullivan, MO, US Status: offline MBI: 305 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Societies of North America Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Monday, January 9, 2012 10:26 AM (permalink) 0 I'd still add a little nori to this. RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8   #2 GreshamH Total Posts : 757 Scores: 16 Reward points : 600 Joined: 4/27/2011 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Monday, January 9, 2012 1:51 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by EasterEggs I want to add salmon as well as I'm told it is very good to add (carotenoids and Oemga 3??), not sure what kind.  I see Sockeye, Atlantic, and Pacific.  I see Pacific is cheaper, and on sale all the time.  Atlantic is on sale right now.  Rarely see Sockeye on sale.  Which should I get?  Does it matter? Non farmed is what you want.  Wild caught   Anything less is inferior.   #3 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Monday, January 9, 2012 5:43 PM (permalink) 0 Glen, the trouble with that is that my fish have never liked to eat nori in the mix...they let it fall to the bottom.  I figured they would end up eating more if I left it on a clip so they can pick when they are bored/hungry and there is nothing better around.  Bad idea?   Thank Gresham!  There is no nutritional difference dependent on the type of salmon?   #4 GreshamH Total Posts : 757 Scores: 16 Reward points : 600 Joined: 4/27/2011 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Monday, January 9, 2012 6:27 PM (permalink) 0 Not so much.  The main difference is between farmed and wild caught.  WC is still superior.   #5 rgrking Total Posts : 712 Scores: 22 Reward points : 446 Joined: 4/8/2011 Location: Sullivan, MO, US Status: offline MBI: 305 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Societies of North America Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Monday, January 9, 2012 8:08 PM (permalink) 0 not sure. Everything I've read shows that algae is part of the clowns diet. I like having it in there. Every now and then I see my clowns eat it. They have never touched it off of a clip, but have when it's mixed in foods. I'm no expert though. RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8   #6 reeflover Total Posts : 183 Scores: 0 Reward points : 258 Joined: 11/18/2010 Location: Lakeville, MN, US Status: offline MBI: 175 Pnts MBI Site: Twin Cities Marine Aquarium Society Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:24 PM (permalink) 0 I agree with what Gresh and Glen have said.  Use wild caught salmon, the omega 3's are higher and astaxanthins higher as well (highest in Sockeye with nice red color, so that is my choice).  I would also add nori for the clowns and banggais.  My clowns and banggais won't touch the lettus clip, but if I make ther nori pieces small enough, they will gulp down pieces of meat with nori pieces mixed in.  Not all my banggais will, but all the clowns do.  I also usually add mysis and brine shrimp to my mix as a source of chitin, which may aid with digestion.  I would also add a source of stabilized Vit C like Pure MAGNESIUM ASCORBYL PHOSPHATE MAP Hint, check E-bay under cosmetics.  Also, check for blood clams in the asian grocery as well as red vegitable seaweed.  I usually also put in whole crab &/or lobster (especially the innerds).  For the same reason if you can get whole shrimp, I would go that route.  I won't tell you what else I put in it, because it is way over the top.  Just have fun, and try to keep everything is small chucks, and not pruied.   #7 Scottt Total Posts : 113 Scores: 0 Reward points : 341 Joined: 12/12/2009 Location: , NY, US Status: offline MBI: 5 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:44 PM (permalink) 0 I used to make my own food, but found it not to be any cheaper than the regular fish foods available.  For the last year I have used Brine Shrimp, Spirulina Brine, Mysis, PE mysis, Bloodworms, Cyclop-eeze, Garlic, and Vitachem, along with Otoheim EP1&2.  The fish like it, it's super simple (no blender...), and the hatches are just as good as with home made food.   #8 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:01 PM (permalink) 0 Glen, that's a good point.  I will test my broodstock with a veggie clip this week to see if they will eat it or not.  They are such pigs I can't imagine them not nibbling it...?   John, thanks for your input!  Oddly, I have a pair of clowns that won't touch the piece of meat if it has a bit of green on it, but my super fussy male Banggai will eat it!  Haha!  I think what I will try to do is puree the nori (the gelatin will hold it to to meats) instead of leaving the nori chunky.   I find if I mix everything (like BS and mysis) into he homemade food the fish get really dependent on it and won't eat anything else I offer them, so I like to switch things up from one meal to the next.   I will check out the vitamin c idea.  I do add FAF Vitamin mix at 1% by weight as suggested on the package.  I do have to make another order with FAF soon and I know they sell vitamin c, so maybe I will add that to the order.   Scott, yeah I understand you!  Putting it all together isn't cheap that's for sure.  However, I do buy almost everything on sale.  I'm constantly watching the flyers for good seafood deals.  I always make extra though and sell off at least 50% of each batch I make.  I make a few bucks off of that and it actually pays for the food I keep for myself, so essentially if I make a big batch it doesn't take much more effort or time, but it will make my food free.  Free is good!    #9 Chelle's Ocean Total Posts : 399 Scores: 0 Reward points : 242 Joined: 8/14/2010 Location: Inverness, FL, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Captive Reefs.com Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:06 PM (permalink) 0 Ok- so I am not ashamed to say I have never - ever- heard of blood clams, and thus had to Google them, lol How exactly are these prepared to prevent the problems listed : http://www.vagabondish.com/worlds-deadliest-foods/ How would you prepare them for the recipe- if adding them to it- and what benefits would these offer the broodstock? Michelle       #10 Chelle's Ocean Total Posts : 399 Scores: 0 Reward points : 242 Joined: 8/14/2010 Location: Inverness, FL, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Captive Reefs.com Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:08 PM (permalink) 0 Also- the blood clams as a 'treat' or added to their daily mix? Michelle       #11 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Tuesday, January 10, 2012 7:11 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by Chelle's Ocean Ok- so I am not ashamed to say I have never - ever- heard of blood clams, and thus had to Google them, lol How exactly are these prepared to prevent the problems listed : http://www.vagabondish.com/worlds-deadliest-foods/ How would you prepare them for the recipe- if adding them to it- and what benefits would these offer the broodstock? Did you notice #10 on the list? http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #12 reeflover Total Posts : 183 Scores: 0 Reward points : 258 Joined: 11/18/2010 Location: Lakeville, MN, US Status: offline MBI: 175 Pnts MBI Site: Twin Cities Marine Aquarium Society Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:50 PM (permalink) 0 Any time you eat raw fish (sushi) you run the risk of getting Hep A.  But usually Hep A runs it course and you are immune for life afterwards.  I'm sure fish in the ocean are subjected to these and other viruses all the time, but I don't know if fish can contract the disease, and viruses are usually host specific.  I know butterflies love blood clams and mussels and really eat them up.  But clams (all), mussels, oysters and other shellfish are notorious for carrying Hepatitis A (and not just blood clams). And good point Tal!   #13 Chelle's Ocean Total Posts : 399 Scores: 0 Reward points : 242 Joined: 8/14/2010 Location: Inverness, FL, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Captive Reefs.com Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:24 AM (permalink) 0 Good to know - thanks for the info. (not sure if I can find them here- but curious as to whether my stock would go for them or not. A couple pairs are seeming to be a bit fickle lately- taking notes to make a recipe to get them out of their finicky funk, lol)   Yeah- good ol' Mickey D's hit #10 on the list, lol.... but, (head bowed in shame) I still hit the drive thru every morning for my large Coke on the way to work, lol, with another @ lunch Michelle       #14 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:02 PM (permalink) 0 Well today I stopped by one of the grocery stores that I don't normally go to (it's in the ghetto lol) because the flyer has some good prices on seafood.  I nabbed a couple pounds of frozen Wild Pacific Salmon for $6/lb, and a pound of New Zealand Mussels for $6.  They didn't have any of the Baby Bay Scallops that are on sale for $6/lb.  These are good prices for my area.  Some of you on the coast probably think these are steep prices!  Ha!   #15 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:04 PM (permalink) 0 Prices sound good to me. I'd pick up some for myself too. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #16 GreshamH Total Posts : 757 Scores: 16 Reward points : 600 Joined: 4/27/2011 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:07 PM (permalink) 0 Prices are pretty good even for coastal communities, like where I live.  Heck, I pay $12 a pound for our local cod... when I can find it.   Now I am hungry and I have another hour at work, and NO FISH to eat at home   #17 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:12 PM (permalink) 0 Woohoo!  Good to know!  Now I gotta go find those scallops!  *yuck*   I actually only like Cod, Halibut, and crab for myself.  Shrimp/Prawns are ok.   #18 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Sunday, February 19, 2012 9:26 AM (permalink) 0 So I went to the seafood market all the way on he other wide of the city and they didn't have any "masago" capelin roe in stock.  Dangit.  However, the did have "Nori Pieces" that are 1.5" by about 7" long and I got a stack of them about 2" high for only $0.99!  Woohoo!   That leads me to a question...I have heard that capelin roe is "tha bomb" so I have been using it, but most of my fish won't eat it (too small to get their attention I think) unless the eggs are stuck together in the gelatin.  Now, the seafood market also sells "tobiko" flying fish roe (out of stock too argh) that according to Google is slightly larger.  Is this comparable to the capelin roe nutrition-wise?  It is quite a bit more pricey than capelin.   Another thing, where do I get lobster eggs from?  What's the difference between red and blackish (I've been Googling) lobster eggs?  I have seen a few people on here say good things about lobster eggs.  What's special about lobster eggs?  Size?  They look huge.  The seafood market people looked at me funny when I asked them for it.    How about Nutramar Ova?  Where does that fit in regarding nutrition and size on the list of different roe?  I think Nutramar Ova is about the same size as capelin...or? <message edited by EasterEggs on Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:09 AM>   #19 Umm_fish? Total Posts : 2835 Scores: 10 Reward points : 953 Joined: 11/4/2009 Location: Boulder, CO, US Status: offline MBI: 775 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Society of Colorado Re:Planning a good homemade recipe - input please! Sunday, February 19, 2012 12:28 PM (permalink) 0 I'm not a fan of gelatin at all. My fish are much pickier about any food with gelatin in it, including ignoring it and letting it rot on the bottom. If your fish are picky eaters, you might try a round of food without it and see how you like it.   I make my own food, five gallons or so at a time. I find it to be enormously cheaper by volume than other frozen fish foods. --Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886   #20 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: 12345 > | Showing page 1 of 5, messages 1 to 20 of 89 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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