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•  Delayed hatch & poor 24h survival in Snowflake Occelaris

  Change Page: < 12 | Showing page 2 of 2, messages 21 to 38 of 38 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Author Message CableGuy Total Posts : 591 Scores: 7 Reward points : 731 Joined: 8/26/2010 Location: Saint Clair Shores, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 635 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:19 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by EasterEggs Originally Posted by CableGuy You say you've "hatched" your second batch?  How many batches have they laid since they've started? Two, or more? How many total? I have hatched 3 batches of eggs from her, and she laid 3 times for her previous owner (larvae were not collected).  They are tending a nest right now that will hatch on the evening of the 21st and 22nd if they go their usual 10-11 days. Originally Posted by CableGuy She doesn't look healthy... that sucks, I hope she recovers! You mean the discoloration near her vent?  I agree it doesn't look right although I'm not sure what is wrong.  She has actually slimmed down after laying this last nest, and she looks a bit better than in the above pic.  I'll take a pic of her today and post it.  For the first time I noticed her pooping today, and it was normal looking poop (dark, small bits, not stringy).  I've never seen her poop before, which isn't strange though since I haven't seen most of my fish actually poop.  They DO poop though...it is there in the tanks!  Haha!   No I mean, if she just laid eggs, she should not be that swollen. She looks like she has something going on inside of her.   My darwin female lays nests 400-600 eggs usually and is about that fat just BEFORE she lays, but after she lays she looks like a normal clownfish. This is the same for all of my other breeding pairs as well... they all look normal after they lay eggs. -Adam   #21 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:39 PM (permalink) 0   Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #22 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:45 PM (permalink) 0 I just got email back from the previous owner who says (in regards to feeding):  "I feed a variety of foods, NLS pellets, pe mysis shrimp, and a quality flake food, dont remember which one right now and I added vitamins also."   This is how they looked when I first bought them (Mar 31, 2012): <message edited by EasterEggs on Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:47 PM> Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #23 CableGuy Total Posts : 591 Scores: 7 Reward points : 731 Joined: 8/26/2010 Location: Saint Clair Shores, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 635 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:10 PM (permalink) 0 Its funny... (off topic but we've talked about it many times)... they say Perc's have an orange cornea but a black iris, while Occy's have all black eyes... your "occy" has "perc" eyes, but the rest of the body looks Perc.   My female "Occy" of my female "Occy" and male "perc" look like this also. I wonder if ours "Occy's" come from a different geographical location. -Adam   #24 Zooid Total Posts : 182 Scores: 0 Reward points : 282 Joined: 4/14/2010 Location: Arvada, CO, US Status: offline MBI: 240 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Society of Colorado Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Sunday, August 19, 2012 4:24 PM (permalink) 0 In my experience, it's tough to tell an ocellaris from a perc in a picture just from the eyes.  I can never seem to snap a pic of my ocellaris fish that show the eyes as they are in person.  They always seems to get the orange iris syndrome when I snap a pic of them hehe.   #25 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Sunday, August 19, 2012 5:30 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by Zooid In my experience, it's tough to tell an ocellaris from a perc in a picture just from the eyes.  I can never seem to snap a pic of my ocellaris fish that show the eyes as they are in person.  They always seems to get the orange iris syndrome when I snap a pic of them hehe. Yeah, you can't use the eye test in pics. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #26 CableGuy Total Posts : 591 Scores: 7 Reward points : 731 Joined: 8/26/2010 Location: Saint Clair Shores, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 635 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Sunday, August 19, 2012 5:48 PM (permalink) 0 Just turn the flash off... LOL. -Adam   #27 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:12 AM (permalink) 0 Here are pics from the last hatch at 200x magnification.  Sorry I can't zoom out...it's just a Digital Magnifier.  The larvae are about 18h old.   Here is one that lays on the bottom and spins around when disturbed:   Here is one that has recently succumbed: Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #28 CableGuy Total Posts : 591 Scores: 7 Reward points : 731 Joined: 8/26/2010 Location: Saint Clair Shores, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 635 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:49 PM (permalink) 0 Only thing I notice is the size of the yolk sack that young - They look a little small.   The one that died looks "normal" and still has some food left so it is weird he died. I would start to wonder about your hatching techniques and or water quality issues...? Very weird. -Adam   #29 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:36 PM (permalink) 0 Interestingly, I have a much higher number of swimmers right now than I normally do at this point.  I will try to get a rough count tonight when the water clears a bit, and have my fingers crossed for the next week. Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #30 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Saturday, August 25, 2012 9:14 AM (permalink) 0 Sorry for the double post here and in my journal.  I figure the update is relative to both threads.   My latest batch is doing really well (hatched 21st and 22nd).  I keep forgetting there were almost 900 eggs (I have the 750 number from the last batch stuck in my head).  Considering this, and the fact that I have collected only 200 dead larvae (I counted), although I imagine there are disintegrated ones that I am unable to count when I siphon them out, so say another 100, I still have probably close to 550 larvae or so.  Indeed, the water is teeming with larvae.  Most of the larvae have big, bulging bellies too. Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #31 Zooid Total Posts : 182 Scores: 0 Reward points : 282 Joined: 4/14/2010 Location: Arvada, CO, US Status: offline MBI: 240 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Society of Colorado Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Saturday, August 25, 2012 5:41 PM (permalink) 0 Excellent....good job   #32 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Wednesday, September 5, 2012 8:02 PM (permalink) 0 Thanks!    Still going strong.  Even though I have only lost a very tiny handful since my last post (like 3 or 4 that I've seen) it doesn't look to me like 550 juveniles in there.  I guess time will tell in a couple weeks when I transfer them to growout and count them.  Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #33 president89 Total Posts : 224 Scores: 0 Reward points : 222 Joined: 6/28/2011 Location: Holbrook, MA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Tuesday, February 24, 2015 12:37 AM (permalink) 0 Mindy, what happened with this pair? Your experience in this thread sounds alot like what I'm going through.   #34 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Tuesday, February 24, 2015 9:47 AM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by president89 Mindy, what happened with this pair? Your experience in this thread sounds alot like what I'm going through.     I didn't have any problems with them after I last posted.  She always had that discolored area in the vent area.  As time went on her nests got very large - around 1200-1300 eggs.  When I moved the pair last year to my shop she stopped eating and starved herself to death.  I tried a few medications, but couldn't get her to start eating again.  I still have the male.  Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #35 KathyL Total Posts : 2639 Scores: 13 Reward points : 1504 Joined: 6/6/2010 Location: St. Louis, MO, US Status: offline MBI: 1605 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Societies of North America Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:25 PM (permalink) 0 Uhg, how awful.   check out Kathy's Clowns, llc website: http://kathysclowns.com Captive bred clownfish and more (Wholesale to the trade.)   #36 president89 Total Posts : 224 Scores: 0 Reward points : 222 Joined: 6/28/2011 Location: Holbrook, MA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Tuesday, February 24, 2015 11:01 PM (permalink) 0 My snowflakes lay very small eggs and always look skinny. Cannot get them to eat much. I saw you say that your clowns had small eggs too. Mine I think has to do with their lack of appetite. Sorry to hear about your fish.   #37 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Delayed hatch in Fancy Occelaris Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:49 AM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by president89 My snowflakes lay very small eggs and always look skinny. Cannot get them to eat much. I saw you say that your clowns had small eggs too. Mine I think has to do with their lack of appetite. Sorry to hear about your fish.   I have a trick.  When I have a pair that doesn't eat well I will put a Peppermint shrimp in the tank with them.  The shrimps are aggressive feeders, and the fish learn if hey don't snatch the food quickly the shrimp will get it all.  They catch on pretty quick - within a week.    That Ocellaris female had small eggs in the beginning, but they got better after she had been laying for awhile, and I changed up my homemade mash a bit (they needed chitin for the eggs to stick). Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #38 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: < 12 | Showing page 2 of 2, messages 21 to 38 of 38 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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