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  Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Culture your own   55% (5) Use refridgerated concentrated   44% (4) Total Votes: 9 Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 22 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Author Message Merkywater Total Posts : 10 Scores: 0 Reward points : 64 Joined: 5/18/2013 Location: Smyrna, GA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 1:57 PM (permalink) 0 Which do you prefer, and why?   #1 Amphispur Total Posts : 417 Scores: 0 Reward points : 853 Joined: 6/20/2012 Location: Larkspur, Colorado, AE Status: offline MBI: 380 Pnts MBI Site: The Southern Colorado Marine Aquarists Society Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 2:09 PM (permalink) 0 I do both, but I mainly culture my own, depending on what I'm going to use. For instance, I use RGComplete because of the ease of it, then I culture iso for more nutrients. In my opinion, the refrigerated stuff has MOST of the nutrients it originally had, but over time it loses some of its "spunk" if you will. Live algae can also multiply and grow, controlled of course, in the culture thus making the amount of times needed to feed your cultures less, and less worry in my opinion.    #2 Merkywater Total Posts : 10 Scores: 0 Reward points : 64 Joined: 5/18/2013 Location: Smyrna, GA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 2:18 PM (permalink) 0 Thanks for your input!   I think both my be better in long run.  Do you have any experience with RG Plus?   #3 Amphispur Total Posts : 417 Scores: 0 Reward points : 853 Joined: 6/20/2012 Location: Larkspur, Colorado, AE Status: offline MBI: 380 Pnts MBI Site: The Southern Colorado Marine Aquarists Society Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 2:25 PM (permalink) 0 No problem! No none on me yet, I just use complete with mine, and some N-Rich on my other cultures, just for protein wise and "nutrient" rich copepods.   #4 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2909 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 2:35 PM (permalink) 0 I use RGrow+ and RGreen Omega. Live phyto isn't worth the time and effort unless you need a particular type for some reason. RGrow+ and RGreen Omega works great in every application I've used it for. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #5 Merkywater Total Posts : 10 Scores: 0 Reward points : 64 Joined: 5/18/2013 Location: Smyrna, GA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 2:40 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by Amphispur No problem! No none on me yet, I just use complete with mine, and some N-Rich on my other cultures, just for protein wise and "nutrient" rich copepods.   Yea Ive looked at both the RG Complete and RG Plus for feeding cultures of rotifers.  And also enriching them with the N-Rich.   #6 Merkywater Total Posts : 10 Scores: 0 Reward points : 64 Joined: 5/18/2013 Location: Smyrna, GA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 2:42 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by Fishtal I use RGrow+ and RGreen Omega. Live phyto isn't worth the time and effort unless you need a particular type for some reason. RGrow+ and RGreen Omega works great in every application I've used it for.   Thanks for your input too.  I've been reading through your webpage very good info!   #7 nrbelk Total Posts : 230 Scores: -2 Reward points : 216 Joined: 7/25/2012 Location: Ammon, ID, US Status: offline MBI: 5 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 3:00 PM (permalink) 0 I didn't know about any of that stuff when I started growing my own phytoplankton.  Now I just grow it and use what I need and put the rest in the fridge till I need it again.    So far this method has been doing really well for me with my cultures of rotifers, copepods, and brine shrimp.     I'm still a complete noob though lol.   #8 Merkywater Total Posts : 10 Scores: 0 Reward points : 64 Joined: 5/18/2013 Location: Smyrna, GA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 3:06 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by nrbelk I didn't know about any of that stuff when I started growing my own phytoplankton.  Now I just grow it and use what I need and put the rest in the fridge till I need it again.  So far this method has been doing really well for me with my cultures of rotifers, copepods, and brine shrimp.   I'm still a complete noob though lol.   lol Yea I'm a complete noob to breeding.  I can tell you a lot about reef tanks, but just learning on the breeding side.  I've cultured phyto in past to feed to tank but now seems to be easier ways to do things with the concentrated versions.  I believe I will do a little of both to see which works best for me.    #9 GreshamH Total Posts : 757 Scores: 16 Reward points : 600 Joined: 4/27/2011 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 4:50 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by Merkywater Originally Posted by Amphispur No problem! No none on me yet, I just use complete with mine, and some N-Rich on my other cultures, just for protein wise and "nutrient" rich copepods. Yea Ive looked at both the RG Complete and RG Plus for feeding cultures of rotifers.  And also enriching them with the N-Rich. With RGcomplete and RG Plus, there is no need to enrich for any of the species hobbyist breeders are dealing with when using those two.  They are an all in one.   #10 Merkywater Total Posts : 10 Scores: 0 Reward points : 64 Joined: 5/18/2013 Location: Smyrna, GA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 4:54 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by GreshamH Originally Posted by Merkywater Originally Posted by Amphispur No problem! No none on me yet, I just use complete with mine, and some N-Rich on my other cultures, just for protein wise and "nutrient" rich copepods. Yea Ive looked at both the RG Complete and RG Plus for feeding cultures of rotifers.  And also enriching them with the N-Rich. With RGcomplete and RG Plus, there is no need to enrich for any of the species hobbyist breeders are dealing with when using those two.  They are an all in one.   Good to know.  So using either RG Complete or RG + is only product you need to feed rotifers or copepods for feeding?   #11 GreshamH Total Posts : 757 Scores: 16 Reward points : 600 Joined: 4/27/2011 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 5:08 PM (permalink) 0 No need to enrich copepods on any feed.   With rotifers, yes, if you are feeding either of those and just doing the typical MO species, no need to enrich.  If you need to boost the fatty acid profile to match the need of the species being cultured, that is where N-Rich comes into play.   Something that has no been mentioned here is RMI concentrates are harvested at peak nutrition, its what we do.  As a hobbyist, its harder to tell, or rather, gear your production, to match need vs peak nutrition.       #12 nrbelk Total Posts : 230 Scores: -2 Reward points : 216 Joined: 7/25/2012 Location: Ammon, ID, US Status: offline MBI: 5 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 5:30 PM (permalink) 0 What causes nutrition to wax or wane?   #13 GreshamH Total Posts : 757 Scores: 16 Reward points : 600 Joined: 4/27/2011 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 7:14 PM (permalink) 0   I apologize. Prior to posting my response I checked with one of our scientists to make sure my answer was correct.  I was using a marketing point taught to me (by someone in marketing with little knowledge of actual phytoplankton culturing) prior to me knowing what I do now, but I never had the background to that talking point.  He said there is no "peak nutrition" which makes sense :lol:   Now I'm on a mission to correct any use of that useless marketing point.  It has no place in our company   #14 GreshamH Total Posts : 757 Scores: 16 Reward points : 600 Joined: 4/27/2011 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 7:15 PM (permalink) 0 I'm so embarrassed :lol:   #15 waldend Total Posts : 604 Scores: 10 Reward points : 1855 Joined: 10/5/2010 Location: Lafayette, IN, US Status: offline MBI: 310 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Monday, May 20, 2013 8:44 PM (permalink) 0 One free liter of RG+ to all that read this thread should make up for it. I can PM my address.   #16 JimWelsh Total Posts : 1426 Scores: 14 Reward points : 1486 Joined: 1/22/2010 Location: Angwin, CA, US Status: offline MBI: 1845 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:54 AM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by GreshamH I apologize. Prior to posting my response I checked with one of our scientists to make sure my answer was correct.  I was using a marketing point taught to me (by someone in marketing with little knowledge of actual phytoplankton culturing) prior to me knowing what I do now, but I never had the background to that talking point.  He said there is no "peak nutrition" which makes sense :lol: Now I'm on a mission to correct any use of that useless marketing point.  It has no place in our company   Might it be true that if a hobbyist were to let their algae grow too long, so that it was approaching the end of the "stationary" phase, and nearing the "crash" phase, then it might have significantly less nutritional value than during the "exponential" phase, or at the start of the "stationary" phase of growth?     #17 GreshamH Total Posts : 757 Scores: 16 Reward points : 600 Joined: 4/27/2011 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:57 PM (permalink) 0 Well the person who told me it, said it had to due with using up nutrients, but plenty of people add more F2 to ongoing cultures.  I never took the time to really look at what he was saying as when I entered the company, I considered what he said to be accurate.... mistake.   #18 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:58 PM (permalink) 0 I use RG+ and RGreen Omega for my Clownfish, and trying it with Dottybacks too.  I do use N-Rich PL Plus to enrich rotifers even though I know I don't "have to".  I keep wanting to do a side by side comparison with my Clown larvae to see if there is a difference when using the N-Rich.  I have a hunch that N-Rich helps with misbarring, but I keep forgetting to run one of the tanks without the enrichment. Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #19 Umm_fish? Total Posts : 2835 Scores: 10 Reward points : 953 Joined: 11/4/2009 Location: Boulder, CO, US Status: offline MBI: 775 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Society of Colorado Re:Culturing Micro algaes vs Concentrated Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:50 AM (permalink) 0 I use refrigerated concentrates because I am crap at culturing my own. --Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886   #20 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 22 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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