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  Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 28 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Author Message Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:17 AM (permalink) 0 How often are Ocellaris clowns brown?  I hatched about 600 and although I have quite a few misbars, I only have one brown fish?  Is this a big deal, or something on the level of just another misbar?  Thanks for any comments...     #1 waldend Total Posts : 604 Scores: 10 Reward points : 1855 Joined: 10/5/2010 Location: Lafayette, IN, US Status: offline MBI: 310 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:09 AM (permalink) 0 Are you talking about what looks like a Darwin Ocellaris or the darker orange Ocellaris?   #2 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:14 AM (permalink) 0 The one centered in the photo, facing away.   #3 waldend Total Posts : 604 Scores: 10 Reward points : 1855 Joined: 10/5/2010 Location: Lafayette, IN, US Status: offline MBI: 310 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:11 AM (permalink) 0 I never recall seeing anyone with an "orange Ocellaris" that dark. Can you get more pictures up close from the side and showing the eyes.   #4 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:30 PM (permalink) 0 Who are the parents? http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #5 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:30 PM (permalink) 0 Who are the parents? http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #6 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:10 PM (permalink) 0 These are the parents.  As you can see, I put a bunch of babies in the parent tank today, but the female was not happy at all, and I thought she would kill all the babies.  I put a divider up to keep them apart.   #7 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:20 PM (permalink) 0 Interesting. I've raised hundreds too and have never gotten one like that, nor have I gotten more than a handful of mis-bars from my regular A. ocellaris pair. While the pair appears to be regular A. ocellaris they might not be and have something else mixed in that is responsible for this?   I would not suggest placing juveniles back with the parents. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #8 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:31 PM (permalink) 0 As for adding the juveniles back in the tank...another rookie mistake on my part.  But I'm simply running out of tank space.    #9 jazzybio13 Total Posts : 492 Scores: 5 Reward points : 274 Joined: 4/23/2013 Location: Ames, IA, US Status: offline MBI: 140 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:05 PM (permalink) 0 I'd say keep that little guy!    #10 GinaReef Total Posts : 225 Scores: -1 Reward points : 470 Joined: 8/29/2012 Location: Hamilton, ON, CA Status: offline MBI: 205 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:36 AM (permalink) 0 It looks like one or both of the parents might have some Darwin genes   #11 Mr Cob Total Posts : 87 Scores: 0 Reward points : 127 Joined: 11/18/2012 Location: San Antonio, TX, US Status: offline MBI: 75 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Sunday, December 22, 2013 6:49 PM (permalink) 0 I agree with Gina, the parents look almost like a slight "mocha clownfish", but that could just be the pic. -Rob mrcobscorals.com   #12 luis a m Total Posts : 451 Scores: 2 Reward points : 1249 Joined: 3/15/2011 Location: Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, AR Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Monday, December 23, 2013 11:51 AM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by Fishtal While the pair appears to be regular A. ocellaris they might not be and have something else mixed in that is responsible for this? They look like Bali Aquarich "percularis".See 10 rays in the dorsal fin   #13 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Monday, December 23, 2013 4:18 PM (permalink) 0 I still have the guy, and he seems to be getting a bit darker as time goes by.  I'm 99.99% sure the parents are wild caught and not planted out in the ocean.  They had 500 or so more babies (that lived) since, and this is still the only one that is dark.  Could be more in the future, but I'm taking a break right now.  Happy Holidays to all.   r/ mike    #14 JoeDigiorgio Total Posts : 278 Scores: -1 Reward points : 823 Joined: 2/6/2013 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL, US Status: offline MBI: 145 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Monday, December 23, 2013 4:43 PM (permalink) 0 Can we get an updated picture of him? Does he have the typical orange nose of a young Darwin?   #15 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Friday, January 3, 2014 5:34 AM (permalink) 0 Few shots from today:       #16 Nathanjayc Total Posts : 22 Scores: 0 Reward points : 70 Joined: 9/5/2013 Location: Tauranga, , NZ Status: offline MBI: 25 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Fish Breeders Club - UK Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Saturday, January 4, 2014 5:19 AM (permalink) 0 very strange and cool would be cool to see what his offspring would look like  does he change colour or stay the same?   #17 mPedersen Total Posts : 3450 Scores: 29 Reward points : 1376 Joined: 2/27/2009 Location: Duluth, MN, US Status: offline MBI: 4975 Pnts MBI Site: Lake Superior Marine Aquarium Club Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Wednesday, January 8, 2014 2:36 AM (permalink) 0 Yes, this is a keeper.  Since the Ocellaris X Black Ocellaris cross yields "intermediate" results..that is one of the many signs indicative of possibly being separate species vs. a simple genetic variant.  THIS, the appearance of a single dark fish from among hundreds of offspring put off by a pair, could be something very different than a "surprise Darwin'...it could instead be something akin to a true melanistic mutation showing up.  Kinda like a single random Albino showing up.  Hey, this is how most mutations are discovered....breed enough fish and you may stumble on something new. Of course, without knowing the true origin and parentage, the notion that these fish could have black ocellaris lineage is certainly possible, and while it's unlikely, this fish COULD represent a relative "throwback" to the black ocellaris ancestors.  This would simply be a chance occurance, the result of "enough" of the "black ocellaris" genetics happening to make it into the offspring to make it look outwardly more like a black ocellaris than a mixture (aka. Mocha). So the questions include: a) have any more turned up in subsequent batches. b) who do you mate it to? HMM.  Interesting fish.    #18 woods4542000 Total Posts : 55 Scores: 0 Reward points : 265 Joined: 3/6/2012 Location: webberville, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 10 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:45 AM (permalink) 0 Female looks pretty dark to me! Male also appears a little darker. I get offspring that look like your parents from Darwin x snowflake pairing.   #19 JoeDigiorgio Total Posts : 278 Scores: -1 Reward points : 823 Joined: 2/6/2013 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL, US Status: offline MBI: 145 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:36 PM (permalink) 0 To offer input on Matt's second question, I'd say pair him back to his mother. As for the coloration of the parents, I've seen plenty of relatively dark standard ocellaris and I've also seen many adult ocellaris 'tan' under intense lighting. Also, it could have just been a dark picture of the parents. With Darwin coloration being only partially dominant, I can't see one full black offspring coming from even 2 half Darwin parents.   #20 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 28 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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