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Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns
Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:53 PM
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If each parent possess that trait why not?
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Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns
Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:14 AM
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On the coloration of the parents, they are the typical local deep water type. There is the belief here that the clowns found in shallow water inside the reef, are not as bright and hardy as those found in 30-feet and deeper waters beyond the reef. I have not studied this, but do know there are two different anemone hosts in the area, one is found close to shore, the other out past the reef. This one dark fish is the only one so far, and I believe I'm up to about 800 or 900 baby clowns from the mother/father pair. I'm taking a breather on raising more right now, so sadly I could be missing out on others. Maybe next month I might raise a few more hatches. I have another pair I was hoping would spawn, but no luck so far. As for who I might mate the little guy with, I will most likely take Joe's suggestion, and go with the mother. If anyone has advice as to how old the dark fish should be, and the process of removing the current male and replacing him with this little guy, I would appreciate it. Thanks, r/ mike
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Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns
Thursday, January 9, 2014 5:17 PM
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 Originally Posted by woods4542000
If each parent possess that trait why not?
It's been proven for decades that the two traits, standard and Darwin black, are at least co dominant. I personally do not believe the two clowns to be the same species but that's a different topic. Anyway, both parents possessing the trait isn't enough to yield full black offspring when that trait is competing with an equally (arguably more) dominant trait. It just doesn't work that way. Once you mix black and white, you get gray, and mixing gray with more gray can yield neither black nor white ever again to put it simply.
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Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns
Friday, January 10, 2014 7:46 AM
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So you are saying two lighter clowns wont produce a dark? Well that fish looks pretty dark to me .
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Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns
Friday, January 10, 2014 8:23 AM
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That's not even close to what I said. I said that two half *Darwin*clowns cannot produce a *Darwin* offspring. That's not how codominant genetics works. What is absolutely possible is that two seemingly normal fish produce a baby with two copies of some random recessive trait and whether this trait looks like something already existing or not has absolutely no bearing on what it is. Snowflakes are similar but that's a more dominant trait so it presents differently. And that's all assuming the parents are half Darwin. We have no reason to think that. All anyone has to go on is the fact that some recessive gene for melanism popped up in this brood. Have you guys seen the color changing clownfish article by reefbuilders? They documented a similar trait but I don't remember the details.
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Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns
Friday, January 10, 2014 10:56 AM
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So wouldn't both of these parents have to posses a recessive gene to get the dark fish?
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Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns
Friday, January 10, 2014 11:36 AM
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Absolutely but not the Darwin black trait like it was speculated before. This would be something new. I'd be lying if I said this was a gold mine because...it looks like a Darwin black lol but that being said, it's not. Check this out: http://reefbuilders.com/2...g-ocellaris-clownfish/
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Re:Question about color of Ocellaris Clowns
Friday, January 10, 2014 12:24 PM
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