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Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Monday, July 21, 2014 7:43 AM
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Breeding Journal DataSheet
This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species: Lysmata vitatta Social Structure: Small group of 4 shrimp - one is larger than the rest Size of Individuals: Range from approx 20mm to 35mm Age of Individuals: Unknown, but I understand that they are less than 6 months old (captive bred) Date added to Tank: 17 July 2014 Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank: 60cm x 30cm x 30 cm Substrate Details: None Filtration Details: Air driven sponge filter + macro algae Water Changes: 30 % weekly Water Temperature: 28 Celcius Lighting: Ambient Lighting Cycle: 7am to 7 pm Other Tank Inhabitants: None Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types: Homemade frozen mash of mussel, scallop, prawn, squid, fish and nori. Spectrum pellets. Feeding Schedule: Twice daily - around 7.30am and 5.00pm. More often on weekends. Spawning Details Date of First Spawn: 30 July 2014 Spawn Time of Day: Some time after 7.30pm - noticed the eggs the next morning. Dates of Consecutive Spawns: N/A Courtship Details: Not witnessed. Egg Size: Roughly estimated at 0.5mm Egg Color: Green Egg Count: Roughly estimated at 400+ Hatch Details Hatch Date: 9 August 2014 Hatch Time of Day: 9.00pm - 1 hour after the lights turned off # Days after Spawn: 10 Larvae Description: White, approx 0.8mm long and attracted to light. Larval Tank Details Temperature: Size of Larval Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Larval Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start: Days after Hatch: Date of Settlement End: Description of Fry:
Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature: Size of Grow-Out Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Size at Transfer: Age at Transfer: Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Additional Information (No Pictures or Videos in the Section Please) Miscellaneous Information: 10 August 2014 - the broodstock were moved to a larger tank - previously they were in a 40cm x 26cm x 24 cm glass aquarium You will be required to provide photographic evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program.
If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports.
<message edited by Magicj on Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:54 AM>
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Monday, July 21, 2014 7:44 AM
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Intended as a stepping stone between breeding Clowns and Orchid Dottybacks, I have acquired 4 Peppermint shrimp as my initial brood stock. The species available in Australia is Lysmata vittata.   A few of them are still quite small so I don't expect too much to happen for a while.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:19 PM
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More for my own records  One of the smaller shrimp moulted overnight between 19/20 July. And my largest shrimp moulted overnight between 21/22 July.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Friday, July 25, 2014 7:56 AM
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:30 AM
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The eggs seem to be developing nicely - I'm not sure when to expect a molt and subsequent moving of the eggs as this is my first time working with shrimp  And, following on from my previous post, all shrimp are now present and accounted for - one must have been hiding when I looked a few days ago 
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:46 AM
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beautiful pictures!
check out Kathy's Clowns, llc website: http://kathysclowns.com Captive bred clownfish and more (Wholesale to the trade.)
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:06 PM
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Thanks Kathy Most journals I have read seem to start with the eggs already located within the pleopods and I have not seen any which document this part of the process.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Friday, August 1, 2014 7:54 AM
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We have a spawn   Now, time to wait for the hatch....
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Friday, August 8, 2014 5:32 AM
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There is now a definite change in the colour of the eggs - even a few eyes are now visible. With no prior experience I don't really know when these are due to hatch - anyone able to offer some advice?  
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Saturday, August 9, 2014 9:13 AM
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I posted yesterday that there had been a significant change in the colour of the eggs, and that some eyes were evident. I didn't think a hatch was far away but I was thinking a few more days. But, I checked an hour after lights out tonight and the hatch had already taken place - the tank was swarming with larval shrimp. I wasn't planning to attempt to raise this hatch and my filter etc hadn't been turned off so these ones will just have to become part of the food chain  So, this hatch was 10 days after the moult and the transfer of the eggs to the pleopods - this is valuable information for me as it provides some timelines for future hatches. The tank temperature has been between 26 and 28 as it has been getting quite cold of a night time. My second largest shrimp moulted last night and transferred the eggs to its pleopods - 10 days from then is Monday 18th. I did manage to get one out of the tank for some pictures   
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Saturday, August 9, 2014 1:33 PM
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Amazing pix! Good luck with these!
check out Kathy's Clowns, llc website: http://kathysclowns.com Captive bred clownfish and more (Wholesale to the trade.)
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Saturday, August 9, 2014 9:14 PM
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Thanks Kathy - still learning how to use my new microscope and camera
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Tuesday, September 16, 2014 6:58 AM
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As expected, another spawn hatched on the night of 27/8/14. I didn't have time to do anything with them before work so they stayed in the larval snagger for the day - I did put some NHBBS in with them. On the evening of the 28/8 I set up a small tank and transferred over the larvae. I added some green water, Nannochloropsis, together with a generous amount of NHBBS. By the time I got home from work on 29/8 it was obvious that there had been significant die-off. This morning I thought they were all dead as I couldn't see any, but this evening I was able to find 30+ still alive. I will keep trying with the remaining zoea but my expectations are not high. I don't think there is enough water movement in my tank and hope to find time tomorrow to buy a small fish bowl or something similar. 1 day old larvae in the snagger  This is a 1 day old zoea  2 day old zoea - notice the change in the eyes which are now on stalks - at least they are moulting   Cheers
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:01 AM
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My second attempt has come and gone with, again, all the larvae dieing by day 5. On this attempt I used a glass beaker sitting in the original aquarium, effectively operating as a bath. I was much happier with the way this operated and will use this method again. I did have a problem with the airstone blocking which prevented water movement which I think may have resulted in significant deaths. I did manage to get some larvae through another moult, as shown in these photo's. You will notice that the tail has changed significantly.    I had a small hatch a few nights ago (20-30 larvae) which I plan to try a few different things with - I added some rotifers and NHBBS, along with some nanno to just tint the water. So far they seem to be going OK - time will tell if I can beat my 5 day mark
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Saturday, November 15, 2014 3:09 PM
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These are really nice pictures! Im looking at getting a scope that I can take pictures with, what scope/ camera are you using?
 Originally Posted by Magicj Thanks Kathy - still learning how to use my new microscope and camera
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Saturday, November 15, 2014 4:18 PM
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Great pics!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Sunday, November 16, 2014 11:37 AM
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Do you have the beaker open at the bottom (with mesh) so water can transfer? The reason I ask is because beakers are small and with an air stone in there you may be getting some significant shifts in salinity over a small period of time.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Sunday, November 16, 2014 5:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Umm_fish?
Do you have the beaker open at the bottom (with mesh) so water can transfer? The reason I ask is because beakers are small and with an air stone in there you may be getting some significant shifts in salinity over a small period of time.
No, I was using a 'normal' beaker so your concern may have some merit. I did manage to get a few to 10 days but I still have a lot of learning to do My next attempt will be in a few weeks.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata vitatta
Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dave w
Great pics!
Thanks.
Originally Posted by Mdoty
These are really nice pictures! Im looking at getting a scope that I can take pictures with, what scope/ camera are you using The general consensus from lurking on Microscope forums is that anything that costs less than $1,000 is a toy and is not worth buying. You may get what you pay for but there was no way I could justify spending that sort of money on a microscope. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any (relatively) cheap options in Australia and Google led me to Amscope, a US based business that sells a wide range of 'affordable' Chinese made microscopes - you can find them on eBay as well. After getting some assistance from a couple of members here I settled on the 10X-20X-30X-60X Stereo Microscope, together with a 2MB USB camera.  The total cost, including postage, was AUD $330 but I think they have free postage within the US. After playing around with it for a few months I am reasonably happy. Working out the best magnification and light source for each particular subject takes a bit of practice. I admit to being somewhat underwhelmed by the pictures provided by the USB camera. Maybe I am just used to my SLR Macro Lens and maybe I just need to expect mediocre images from a $100 camera when it appears that the top line cameras sell for $500+ . I think I will eventually upgrade the camera but the purchase of the microscope was definitely a worthwhile investment.
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