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Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Saturday, July 4, 2015 4:49 PM
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Breeding Journal DataSheet
This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species: Lysmata wurdemanni Social Structure: group of 3 Size of Individuals: 1.5 inches Age of Individuals: unknown Date added to Tank: one on 7/4/2015 , two more on 7/12/15 Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank: 15 gallons Substrate Details: large PVC Filtration Details: sponge filter Water Changes: yes, once a month Water Temperature: 78F Lighting: fluorescent CFL Lighting Cycle: 14 hours day, 10 hours night Other Tank Inhabitants: 2 Watchman gobies Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types: frozen mash, Otohime B2 Feeding Schedule: twice daily Spawning Details Date of First Spawn: 7/14/15 Spawn Time of Day: after dark in evening Dates of Consecutive Spawns: assumed 7/1/15 since hatch was 7/15/15 Courtship Details: unknown, eggs attached to swimmerets the next morning. Egg Size: tiny, but unknown Egg Color: green Egg Count: unknown Hatch Details Hatch Date: 7/15/15 Hatch Time of Day: assumed overnight, larvae found 7/16/15 # Days after Spawn: unknown since this spawning was not recorded Larvae Description: tiny shrimp bodies with lots of appendages, eyes not on stalks yet. Not a lot of color, but these shrimp parents did not get astaxanthin as my boggessi parents did. Boggessi larvae were rather orange. Larval Tank Details Temperature: ambient, 73F Size of Larval Tank: two gallon fishbowl, plastic Substrate Details: none Other Tank Decor:none Filtration Details: water changes, rigid airline connected to air, to keep water circulating Lighting: ambient CFL clamped to ceiling beam Lighting Cycle: 14 hours day, 10 hours night Water Changes: as needed, perhaps once a week, or else clean water replenishes water siphoned out to remove detritus. Larval Feeding Details Food Types: Newly hatched brine shrimp Feeding Schedule: twice daily Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start: Days after Hatch: Date of Settlement End: Description of Fry:
Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature: Size of Grow-Out Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Size at Transfer: Age at Transfer: Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Additional Information (No Pictures or Videos in the Section Please) Miscellaneous Information: successive spawning events: 8/3/15 successive hatching events: 8/2/15 You will be required to provide photographic evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program.
If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports.
<message edited by KathyL on Tuesday, August 4, 2015 10:36 PM>
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Saturday, July 4, 2015 5:00 PM
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So excited to have finally found one! And it has eggs! 
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Sunday, July 5, 2015 2:15 PM
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You bought it with eggs? Awesome - hopefully you will soon have a bunch! All I can find in my area are L. boggessi. Happy 4th of July!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Sunday, July 5, 2015 2:27 PM
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No kidding! I was so excited to finally find one!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Monday, July 6, 2015 2:35 PM
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 Originally Posted by KathyL
No kidding! I was so excited to finally find one!
Indeed!.See how nice it looks  Since some years all peppers in the market are the "ugly duckling" L.boggessi.Even peppers imported from Asia,they are captive bred boggessi.Though wurdemanni are common in US waters,I collected my first stock in the Gulf of Mexico.Captive bred wurdemanni should displace boggessi in LFS,given they are much nicer. Same happens with L.grabhami,though native Americans,you never see one in LFS,only imported L.amboinensis.The only grabhami I could ever see was in the Public Aquarium at Havanna. 
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Monday, July 6, 2015 8:29 PM
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Luis,
Do you know if the peppermint shrimps hybridize? I found this one in a collection of boggessi, so I wonder about the parentage of the eggs.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Sunday, July 12, 2015 8:10 PM
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And now, they are everywhere….Another store had a bunch, so I bought 2 more, one with eggs. I can smell the spawn and hatch reports. We start with the hatch of one……….
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:24 PM
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One came in with eggs, and I thought that the old one also had eggs, but I could not find them yesterday. Only one shrimp had eggs yesterday, and it was one of the new ones. I wonder if the older one was fertilized by a boggessi, since it was purchased in a tank of boggessis. Perhaps the eggs were not viable. If they were, the larvae did not make it to the snagger, which is running 24/7 in this tank.
This morning I found a molt, and now two of the three shrimps are carrying eggs, one's eggs are very green and I think that's the one that molted last night. Pix to follow:
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:32 PM
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Shrimp tank with molt  close up of molt  new egged shrimp  non-egged shrimp 
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Wednesday, July 15, 2015 4:14 PM
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Very cool that you found wurdemanni!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Wednesday, July 15, 2015 5:29 PM
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Originally Posted by KathyL
Luis,
Do you know if the peppermint shrimps hybridize? I found this one in a collection of boggessi, so I wonder about the parentage of the eggs.
No,Kathy they don´t.Andy reported that somewhere.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Thursday, July 16, 2015 8:45 AM
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thanks Luis, I should ask Andy for a reference.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:14 PM
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First thing I do every morning is check the snagger in the Wurdemanni tank. Nothing today. Checked the shrimps , and huh, only one had eggs this morning. While puzzling this with the flashlight, I caught sight of a larval shrimp OUTSIDE the snagger! OMG, one of the egg holders must have hatched a bunch. I turned off the room lights closest to the tank and shone flashlight down the glass and started sucking shrimp larvae out of the tank with a transfer pipet. I didn't get many, but some. Here's pix:  and a close up  I already had a fishbowl kreisel set up, so after a little acclimating, in they went with some NH brine shrimp. Somehow, some brine shrimp nauplii had found the kreisel a few days ago, and still swim around in the food-less water , but i suppose they do no harm. I left them in there.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:35 PM
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So I was going about my business with fish room chores and all, and I'm checking out the goby in the wurdemanni tank, and all is well. Then I see them! There were still wurdemanni larvae in the shrimp tank 10 hours after I left for work today. I sucked a few more out with a transfer pipet and added them t the fishbowl. I also added some harpacticoids from the boggesssi bowl, because, why not?
Kirkendol says that they may die in 3 days if they don't eat the morning after they hatch, but I'm not worried about these guys, since the shrimp tank is loaded with harpacticoids that came from the sponge filter I seeded in a sump with lots of live rock, supplemented by whatever I'm culturing. I should get a pair of mandarins….
This tank is crawling with harps.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:38 PM
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Interestingly, I used a small cup to transfer the larvae into after I captured them, that had previously held dinner for the bigger fish:;Larry's Fish Frenzy. A piece was still in there. Later when I went to try to get pictures under the scope, about 4 of them were playing tug of war over the food--proof that they like dead food as well as live food.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:12 PM
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Friday, July 17, 2015 9:04 AM
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Last night there was another molt, and we again have 2 adult shrimps with eggs this morning. So it seems that the shrimps release the larvae a day before they molt, and become egg bearers again. I had thought previously that it happened on the same night.
I could find no larval shrimp in the parents' tank this morning.
The larval shrimp collected yesterday seem fine in their fishbowl kreisel, but I think I added too many NHBS, and I may have to figure out how to get them out…the boggessi bowl needs a good water change as well.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Sunday, July 19, 2015 4:58 PM
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Yesterday the wurdemanni's eyes went on stalks, and they seem overall bigger.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:55 AM
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They got spear legs a few days ago.
I added a terrestrial plant transplant warming mat under the fishbowl yesterday. Today the temperature is 80F. I'm hoping this will speed metamorphosis, as I've read from Shannon Pecheur's report: 24 days to meta at 80F and elsewhere, 21 days to meta, 10-14 days earlier than Kirkendol published at room temp (73F).
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata wurdemanni
Friday, July 31, 2015 3:28 PM
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Kathy,your pictures are outstanding! Seems you are using a compound microscope,but are you lighting from beneath AND above?
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