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Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:11 PM
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Breeding Journal DataSheet
This first post should be updated regularly to include new information as events take place or changes are made to your system General Species: Centropyge bispinosa Social Structure: 1 male 1 female Size of Individuals: Male 3.5-4 inches, female 2.5 Age of Individuals: Unknown Date added to Tank: Male added to tank 01/13/2015. Female Added 05/21/2015 Broodstock Tank Details Size of Tank: 240 gallons Substrate Details: bare bottom full reef tank Filtration Details: protein skimmer and algae scrubber Water Changes: 100 gallons once a month Water Temperature: 80-82F Lighting: 3x 400watt metal halides Lighting Cycle: 1pm - 10pm Other Tank Inhabitants: Full reef with other fish Broodstock Feeding Details Food Types: Grazes most of the day. Tank fed pellets/flakes twice daily , sometimes some nori strips. Feeding Schedule: 2x daily Spawning Details Date of First Spawn: 07/23/2015 Spawn Time of Day: Sometimes 1 minute before lights out. Sometimes they wait 5 minutes after lights out. (10pm) Dates of Consecutive Spawns: Since 07/23/2015 they have been spawning every 3-5 days. --Updated 11-1-2015 the pair spawns nightly now. Courtship Details: About an hour before lights out the male will swim around the female almost frantically or dart back and forth from one of the tank to the other. Tries his best to get her attention by stopping directly in front of her line of sight, if she ignores him he will begin darting around her and dashing around tank all over again. She will typically keep grazing for food until about 9:50 then will follow him around and allow him to begin pecking on her body and they will circle each other. The actual spawning is very quick, they connect bodies and then after the spawn they will dart off to hide in the rock work. Egg Size: tiny about .50mm - .75mm Egg Color: Translucent Egg Count: Have only ever collected about 50 eggs since they are hard to snag, an estimate would be between 150-250. --Updated as of 11-1-2015 the egg count is up around 400+ Hatch Details Hatch Date: 07/24/2015 Hatch Time of Day: 16 hours after spawn in 80*F water # Days after Spawn: 16 hours later Larvae Description: Clear Pro Larvae , no eyes or mouth Consecutive Hatch Dates: Since 07/24/2015 after every spawn it appears 75% of the eggs are fertile. Larval Tank Details Temperature: 80f Size of Larval Tank: small container maybe 1/4 gallon Substrate Details: bare bottom Other Tank Decor: none Filtration Details: none, water changes, airstone, saltwater additions as time goes on Lighting: small led lamp Lighting Cycle: 1pm-10pm Water Changes: daily Larval Feeding Details Food Types: As of 08-06-2015 have only tried ciliates, small rotifers, & RG complete to keep the rotifers happy. Feeding Schedule: constant Metamorphosis/Settlement Date of Settlement Start: Days after Hatch: Date of Settlement End: Description of Fry:
Grow-Out Tank Details Temperature: Size of Grow-Out Tank: Substrate Details: Other Tank Decor: Filtration Details: Lighting: Lighting Cycle: Water Changes: Size at Transfer: Age at Transfer: Grow-Out Feeding Details Food Types: Feeding Schedule: Additional Information (No Pictures or Videos in the Section Please) Miscellaneous Information: You will be required to provide photographic or video evidence in this thread of each event submitted for the MBI Program.
If your thread does not contain these photos the MBI Committee will not be able to approve your reports. PHOTOS AND VIDEO S MUST BE PLACED IN ADDITIONAL POSTS, NEVER IN THE FIRST POST IN A JOURNAL.
<message edited by t.priscu on Sunday, November 1, 2015 11:06 PM>
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Tuesday, August 11, 2015 3:03 PM
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Video of Mating Dance. In this particular video they spawned about 5 minutes after lights out. https://youtu.be/l4b11hGUOfA Video of Hatched Pro Larvae 20 hours after spawn. https://youtu.be/WNgp2KHNqcI They died within the day of shooting the video. I'm not sure if the activity of moving around their small container for the video killed them or not.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:19 PM
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Great to see someone else working with these. My pair have slowed their spawning activities - probably because I have been doing some much needed reef maintenance & re-landscaping. I haven't collected eggs in about 3 weeks now. I'll be following your progress closely! Nice videos, btw.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Tuesday, August 11, 2015 9:26 PM
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Thank you!
Good luck with yours! I was reading over your journal earlier. Pretty fish.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Wednesday, August 12, 2015 12:24 AM
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Took a few quick pics of Male and Female tonight. Sorry they are not very good. Male   Female  
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Sunday, August 16, 2015 11:04 PM
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That is a NICE Looking pair!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Sunday, August 16, 2015 11:30 PM
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Thank you  Haven't been able to collect any eggs lately. Every night they still go through the dance but it seems like they are not actually spawning right now.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:39 AM
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Please don't take offense at this remark, but are you sure they aren't spawning? Sometimes the eggs disappear in 2 minutes, they are so small. And it seems that every tank occupant takes advantage of the free caviar. When I had a male and 3 females, it seemed like they never missed a night. From what I recall, they spawn more regularly in warmer water. I'm sure your lighting is consistent, but if it isn't, that could throw them off a bit. Also, they LOVE blackworms.
You probably already knew all this and this information is superfluous. The people in Hawaii found much greater egg production once a month during the moon cycles.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:29 AM
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Hi Dave,
No I am not sure they arnt spawning but when I see eggs its very obvious they did as the eggs are everywhere. When I can't find anything I just assume they didn't but you are probably right. The tank lights and temp(80*f) are on a controller so everything stays consistent.
I'll see if I can get ahold of some blackworms thanks for the tip!
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Wednesday, August 19, 2015 7:17 PM
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Not only do they love blackworms, but in my experience the blackworms do something to make them spawn. It may be as simple as caloric abundance, it may have something to do with other blackworm qualities. But I think it definitely boosts spawning.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:03 AM
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As far as I know none of the LFS around me sell black worms. Is that where you normally buy them?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:47 AM
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Don't know but I'm guessing this is a fishing lure /terrestrial reptilian pet food kind of thing. Petco or Petsmart, or Walmart might actually have them, refrigerated. I'm a little concerned about the effect of how dirty blackworms are. I have no experience with them, but IIRC they eat poo.
check out Kathy's Clowns, llc website: http://kathysclowns.com Captive bred clownfish and more (Wholesale to the trade.)
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Friday, August 21, 2015 12:17 AM
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Tonight I noticed the angels were very active in their spawning dance. So I skimmed the top of the water and ended up collecting a few eggs. Am i correct in assuming they do not have eggs all connected in a floating strand? It seems like they are just randomly spewed out across the tank. Here is one of the eggs i collected.  I am still very curious about the black worm idea, I maybe only collected 10-20 eggs so even though the female still seems very small i was expecting more eggs. Maybe a more beefy diet would help in egg production?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Friday, August 21, 2015 12:35 AM
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 Originally Posted by KathyL
I'm a little concerned about the effect of how dirty blackworms are. I have no experience with them, but IIRC they eat poo.
Tubifex live in sewage. Blackworms are cultured in California. Different animal. You can even culture them yourself at home if you want. And yes, they are kept cold...for a while I was using my RO/DI effluent from the cold tap...problem is that's not always running! I don't think that Blackworms are the ticket long term...Coral Beauties have more herbivorous diets to the best of my recollection.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Friday, August 21, 2015 9:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mPedersen
Originally Posted by KathyL
I'm a little concerned about the effect of how dirty blackworms are. I have no experience with them, but IIRC they eat poo.
Tubifex live in sewage. Blackworms are cultured in California. Different animal. You can even culture them yourself at home if you want. And yes, they are kept cold...for a while I was using my RO/DI effluent from the cold tap...problem is that's not always running! I don't think that Blackworms are the ticket long term...Coral Beauties have more herbivorous diets to the best of my recollection. I think they both come from high nutrient sediments and I agree that if you don't change the water with blackworms every day they soon smell like the local sewage treatment plant. However if you keep up the water changes they will "clean out", no matter what their original source. I think Matt P. is right, I think the only large scale source of blackworms is in California. I'm setting up a system to grow them but I think they only increase something like 7% per month, which is a very slow growth rate. Given how much fish love them you'd need a swimming pool to keep up with demand.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Friday, August 21, 2015 9:44 PM
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well now i have some of these. 
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Sunday, August 23, 2015 2:40 AM
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YAY! Congrats.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Sunday, August 23, 2015 10:26 AM
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Sweet! Are you set up with pod naups to give them a run?
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Sunday, August 23, 2015 6:12 PM
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Yes I do have naups to give them a try.
However I didn't have any small tanks set up for them. I put them in with the Ruby reds I'm trying but I have no idea how that will turn out. Getting a separate tank setup to give the cb's a real shot soon.
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Re:Breeding Journal, Species: Centropyge bispinosa (Coral Beauty)
Sunday, August 23, 2015 9:34 PM
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If you need tanks, Tom, call me. Tons o tanks over here, and you can store my BRTs as well and use them! Trying to clear the basement! My husband will be so happy!
check out Kathy's Clowns, llc website: http://kathysclowns.com Captive bred clownfish and more (Wholesale to the trade.)
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