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  Change Page: < 12 | Showing page 2 of 2, messages 21 to 40 of 40 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Author Message JGS240 Total Posts : 10 Scores: 0 Reward points : 28 Joined: 12/29/2011 Location: Wateford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:36 AM (permalink) 0 Ive only been to the trop once, so i cant say for certain how large their vats are but i just googled it and i see someone said they were 7'x14'x2.5'...?   That sounds pretty damn close.    #21 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 11:03 AM (permalink) 0 I think they are 6' wide. I recall Dick saying that they were designed so that both he and his son could reach the center from either side. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #22 JGS240 Total Posts : 10 Scores: 0 Reward points : 28 Joined: 12/29/2011 Location: Wateford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:16 PM (permalink) 0 I would think any body of water around that size or larger would work.  If these are done outdoors, then the standards used by outdoor coral farmers would apply (shelter, predator deterrents, etc...) as well.     #23 seaweed88 Total Posts : 103 Scores: 0 Reward points : 510 Joined: 10/8/2011 Location: Elkhart, IN, US Status: offline MBI: 5 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:54 PM (permalink) 0 I had read an article Wild-Caught Banggai Cardinalfish Contracting Untreatable and Highly Contagious Virus Sounds like it would be a great time to be raising them at home.   #24 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:56 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by seaweed88 I had read an article Wild-Caught Banggai Cardinalfish Contracting Untreatable and Highly Contagious Virus Sounds like it would be a great time to be raising them at home. Got a link? http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #25 rgrking Total Posts : 712 Scores: 22 Reward points : 446 Joined: 4/8/2011 Location: Sullivan, MO, US Status: offline MBI: 305 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Societies of North America Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:57 PM (permalink) 0 http://blog.aquanerd.com/2011/11/wild-caught-bangaii-cardinalfish-virus.html RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8   #26 seaweed88 Total Posts : 103 Scores: 0 Reward points : 510 Joined: 10/8/2011 Location: Elkhart, IN, US Status: offline MBI: 5 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:59 PM (permalink) 0 Seagrest Farms published the article. Wild-Caught Banggai Cardinalfish Contracting Untreatable and Highly Contagious Virus http://blog.aquanerd.com/...ardinalfish-virus.html     #27 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:04 PM (permalink) 0 That explains a few things, thanks! http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #28 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:17 PM (permalink) 0 More info: http://vdi.sagepub.com/content/21/3/306.full http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #29 TheCoralShoppe Total Posts : 158 Scores: 4 Reward points : 191 Joined: 8/27/2011 Location: Parma, OH, US Status: offline Group Account MBI: 125 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:05 PM (permalink) 0 So i'm resurecting this thread. Went to Tropicorium after the MBI workshop and was amazed at the number of bangaii's they are raising. And sell at $20.00 each. Trying to decide whether to try co culturing with some soft corals in my current reef setup. I have an idea of redoing it, and making it baby bangaii safe.  Or the other thought was to tear down the reef setup all together and buld an indoor SW pond. The key to all of it is to use no mechanical pumps, only airlifts for water movement. Let me know your thoughts. Probably won't work on it until after MACNA. You never know though.   Mike Meadows Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/thecoralshoppe Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCoralShoppe?feature=mhee     #30 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:06 PM (permalink) 0 Are the big vats for large shoals of Banggai?  If so, how do they collect the fry? Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #31 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:29 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by EasterEggs Are the big vats for large shoals of Banggai?  If so, how do they collect the fry? The vats are for growing coral, the Banggai just hang out in there and reproduce. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #32 TheCoralShoppe Total Posts : 158 Scores: 4 Reward points : 191 Joined: 8/27/2011 Location: Parma, OH, US Status: offline Group Account MBI: 125 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:11 PM (permalink) 0 Yeah it appears that they stay underneath the coral racks, and then once release a majority of the fry make their way up to the many coral growout containers they have. This provides them protection and lots and lots of pods to pick on for food. It was amazing the amount of fry that were among these corals.  Mike Meadows Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/thecoralshoppe Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCoralShoppe?feature=mhee     #33 EasterEggs Total Posts : 1946 Scores: 19 Reward points : 735 Joined: 9/22/2011 Location: Saskatoon, SK, CA Status: offline MBI: 590 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:36 PM (permalink) 0 Hmmm, that sounds very difficult to remove the fry. Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]   #34 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:55 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by EasterEggs Hmmm, that sounds very difficult to remove the fry. They don't remove them until they're ready to sell. There is plenty of stuff in there to eat. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #35 TheCoralShoppe Total Posts : 158 Scores: 4 Reward points : 191 Joined: 8/27/2011 Location: Parma, OH, US Status: offline Group Account MBI: 125 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Wednesday, August 1, 2012 5:02 PM (permalink) 0 Actually they said they can remove a hundred per day. Easily. When they do collect them. The water is pretty shallow where they are hanging out, and i could see it being easy to snatch them one by one with a small fine mesh net.  Mike Meadows Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/thecoralshoppe Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCoralShoppe?feature=mhee     #36 Umm_fish? Total Posts : 2835 Scores: 10 Reward points : 953 Joined: 11/4/2009 Location: Boulder, CO, US Status: offline MBI: 775 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Society of Colorado Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Wednesday, August 1, 2012 6:44 PM (permalink) 0 Originally Posted by The key to all of it is to use no mechanical pumps, only airlifts for water movement.   Baby banggai can deal with quite a lot of water current. I wouldn't worry about pumps for their sake so long as they can get into the lee of things in the water column when they need to. The bigger problem is the adults eating the fry. You need a lot of places for them to hide. Teen-aged fry are ... well ... kind of idiots and will decide that nothing can hurt them. Kind of sounds familiar, actually. --Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886   #37 TheCoralShoppe Total Posts : 158 Scores: 4 Reward points : 191 Joined: 8/27/2011 Location: Parma, OH, US Status: offline Group Account MBI: 125 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Wednesday, August 1, 2012 6:52 PM (permalink) 0 Andy, i believe that they stay up top with the coral frags, where as the adults tend to stay below the racks in a nice shoal. I'm sure the occasional one will get picked off.   The goal of this project is to be able to do it in a sustainable manner. So using air instead of pumps and only sufficient lighting as needed to grow the coral types we are going to work with. So yes, i could use a recirculating system with a skimmer, i'm intrigued to see what a skimmer less system with a refugium will garner in the way of coral health and population of cardinals.  Mike Meadows Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/thecoralshoppe Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheCoralShoppe?feature=mhee     #38 Arc Katana Total Posts : 929 Scores: 19 Reward points : 1293 Joined: 10/20/2009 Status: offline MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Wednesday, August 1, 2012 7:10 PM (permalink) 0 I've gone this route too - all my 300G tubs of coral have 12-15 Banggai's in them. I feed about twice, sometimes three times a day.  I've got a sponge on the intake of the pump and skimmer so not too worried about sucking them in (although Im sure it can/will happen).  I'm running six of these (only five up at the moment, got a pair of triggers in one of the 300 tubs), if I can get 10 every 2-3 months out of each tub, I'll call it a win.   #39 Umm_fish? Total Posts : 2835 Scores: 10 Reward points : 953 Joined: 11/4/2009 Location: Boulder, CO, US Status: offline MBI: 775 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Aquarium Society of Colorado Re:Why are Bangaiis not being commercially raised? Wednesday, August 1, 2012 7:19 PM (permalink) 0 I would think oval tanks (horse troughs) with propeller pumps creating a gyre would be a good way to go. You could have two sets on timers. Once or twice a day you could change the direction of the gyre. You can get incredible amounts of flow with relatively few pumps with something like that. --Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886   #40 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: < 12 | Showing page 2 of 2, messages 21 to 40 of 40 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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