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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Monday, March 9, 2015 11:01 PM
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I've left mine out overnight and it has made it last less time, but hasn't ruined it. You can tell when it goes bad, it is no longer bright green - becomes an olive green and stinks in a different way. LOL. I don't use airstones. I will video my culture for you.
Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 7:01 AM
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checked under a microscope and I think I see the tiny males swimming around. I don't know if this is better than nothing, or what. What is the next step after you see males? Do I have to sieve and start over again, or just feed lightly and see what happens? Rotifers are going to make me quit breeding....I feel like spawning, hatching, rearing are all easy as pie, but keeping rotifers is impossible.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:31 AM
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Are those males, or ciliates? If I were you, i would place an order from Reed's and start over.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:56 PM
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Reed is making a fortune off me, fedex as well. This is like my 6th or 7th order of rotifers! Some are fast moving, some seem to swim in a circle and/figure 8. Too small to get a good look at at 30x.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 7:45 PM
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If you see some just wait and see if they bounce back. Add like 1ml of RG (if the water is currently clear) and do not add more until the water looks clear again.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 8:14 PM
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I'm having a hard time telling if it's clear. The crap at the bottom is green, water is tea colored when looking through a wine glass. How much RGC? I'm using RGC on one culture RG +chloram-x on the other. Reed should offer MBISITE discounts. =)
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:04 PM
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if I recall you are using a CCS, which I assume is white.? Can you take a picture of your culture looking down into the bucket? Short of that, I say if the bottom is green you have a lot of RG sunk to the bottom. My white bucket has a bit of light brown on the sides and bottom but not green.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:14 PM
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Ok went back and read and looks like you now have them in 2L? If so you should be adding maybe 3 drops of RG+ Or 6 of RGC. If you have added 1ml you likely need to sieve again into fresh water and start adding the drops mentioned above.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:41 PM
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I think I'm at 1-2 gallons now. I will do above. Nothing to lose at this point.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Wednesday, March 11, 2015 9:48 PM
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If you do that and have fresh water in a clean container you should be able to easily see the shift from the light green tint when the RG is added to the "clear" when the rotifers have consumed the algae.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:26 AM
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Use a shot glass to scoop a sample out of the bucket to check if it is clear. "Clear" water will have a yellow/brown tint, and if it is not clear it will have a green tint. I will take some pics and videos for you as soon as I remember (my fish aren't at home).
Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Friday, March 13, 2015 4:45 PM
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I got two bags of 1million rotifers from reed. I added 1 L of fresh sw to one bag, and added 6 drops of RGC. The salinity was 1.019 in the culutre, and I added 1.021. I don't think that'll be a problme. I haven't touched the other bag yet, because i want to know if above is ok. Reeds website says to add 11ML of RGC, which is alot IMO. http://reedmariculture.co...rotifers_culturing.php I also checked these under my microscope to ensure that I should be seeing rotifers with my current configuration, and yes I see ton in just .1ML. I bought this from carolina just to compare. Don't waster your money. I literally see 2 live adults, and a ton of tiny tiny things that aren't adult rotifers. Total waste of money. http://www.carolina.com/r...=&question=rotifer I'm not currently using the CCS. Had nothing but trouble, and wanted to eliminate variables before I try them again. Anyone think I should buy a NEW bucket to eliminate variables, or is that overkill. These buckets don't leave my fishroom and have never had any chemicals in them.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Friday, March 13, 2015 4:51 PM
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We say... Add enough RGcomplete to maintain a light green color between feedings. Typically this will be 11 ml daily per million rotifers for maximum production, less if you need fewer rotifers. 11 mLs will give you a harvest 1m rotifers typically, if your parameters are close to what we suggest. To be clear, that is 11 milliters added to the 14l culture. 6ml to 1l is excessive and not needed if cold banked in the bag.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Friday, March 13, 2015 5:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GreshamH
We say... Add enough RGcomplete to maintain a light green color between feedings. Typically this will be 11 ml daily per million rotifers for maximum production, less if you need fewer rotifers. 11 mLs will give you a harvest 1m rotifers typically, if your parameters are close to what we suggest. To be clear, that is 11 milliters added to the 14l culture. 6ml to 1l is excessive and not needed if cold banked in the bag. Actually Gresham this is what It says. Starting your culture Put the bag of rotifers in the bucket to allow it to slowly warm up Wait 5 minutes then open the bag and add the rotifer starter culture If you are starting with 1 million rotifers, add 11 mL RGcomplete or other algae feedAdd microalgae daily but wait at least 3 days before starting to harvest them if it is desired to build up the population as rapidly as possible
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Friday, March 13, 2015 5:56 PM
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Mine is a direct quote, and yours supports mine. The directions you posted start off at the top of the page as: The Basic Setup A 5 gallon (ca. 20 liter) bucket is a typical setup for a small system. The portion you posted states: Put the bag of rotifers in the bucket to allow it to slowly warm up (5 gallon bucket of culture water)Wait 5 minutes then open the bag and add the rotifer starter culture (add to 5 gallon bucket of culture water)If you are starting with 1 million rotifers, add 11 mL RGcomplete or other algae feed Does this make sense to you? You are adding the 1l of 1 million rot culture to the 5 gallon bucket of culture water, then feeding that 11ml. We are NOT saying add 11ml to the bag of culture water. You do not need to feed the bag in the refrigerator much at all... just keep it tinted green. Their metabolism is very minor at that temp.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Friday, March 13, 2015 6:49 PM
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Got it. I don't know why bothered contesting the master
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Friday, March 13, 2015 7:31 PM
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Oh I'm no master, I work with them though :lol: Having gone back and reread those instructions, I see room for improvement. The line that I think you got caught by really should have a bit more detail. The wonderful thing, and what I hate the most, is websites tend to be dynamic. With such a data heavy website, we tend to forget about sections of it till people remind us... so thanks, thanks for bringing this one to light. A little off topic, but are you planning on doing full time hobby breeding/rearing, or just a batch here and there? If the latter, I suggest just buying what rots you need for that clutch. Typically a million is more then enough. I have a calculator half designed that will help with this, I'll get the formulas completed ASAP.
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Friday, March 13, 2015 8:20 PM
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I am somewhere between hobbyist and full blown. I think I'm going to start off slow and ramp up once I have this rotifer problem under control. Plus I have a freezer full of rgc, rg+, and rotigreen omega
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Friday, March 13, 2015 8:58 PM
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Gresham, any instructions on RGC or RG+ for 1L of culture + 1L of NSW? It's hard to gauge culture color with 1 million rotifers in 1L!
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Re:I keep killing my rotifers
Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:17 PM
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Personally, I haven't had a lot of luck diluting the culture that much, but they travel for much longer to come to Canada, so maybe that makes a difference. When I buy a bag of 1 million rotifers I pour them into an empty 6L bucket and add aeration. I wait about an hour and then I drip in 1L of new SW that I've added 2 mL RotiGrow Omega and 2 mL ClorAm-X solution to (this is the only time I ever drip acclimate rotifers). By the next morning they usually haven't cleared the water yet, so I skip that feeding, and they usually get fed the night after (24-30 hours after receiving them and first feeding). I took some pics and vids for you...I'll upload them now.
Don't let fear and common sense stop you! =]
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