Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 40 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version
Author
|
Message
|
Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 5:38 PM
( permalink)
We have two newbies today and that fills our roster up completely. Thank you all for joining! We have some possible good news coming. I'll let you know when I'm sure about things. I'm really getting excited by the potential of this ... class? ... whatever you want to call it.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 5:38 PM
( permalink)
I'm pumped up about it!!!!
RLTW 180 Gallon Mixed Reef Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!" Isaiah 6:8
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 6:45 PM
( permalink)
sweet deal! Andy, I would urge you to not count me against the Roster as I am more here to answer questions...
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 7:51 PM
( permalink)
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 8:50 PM
( permalink)
It's such a privilege to be a newbie! Thanks so much for including me. I've gone copepod crazy lately, and it's nice to be able to post and ask questions of all you cope-gurus. I've acquired 7 different starters, with mixed results: T californicus and rotifers, of course -- no problem. O. marina-- not sure Panamanensis -- did well for a while, now not so sure Parvocalanus -- got some at the MBI conference, but it didn't look good from the git go. Diapta something -- also not great. I think I got 2 pods out the bottle. Tisbe -- small but living M Salina -- Winner winner chicken dinner. Tons o pods. I feel that I 'm not feeding correctly, or doing the right kind of water changes, or something.
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:10 PM
( permalink)
 Originally Posted by THEJRC
sweet deal! Andy, I would urge you to not count me against the Roster as I am more here to answer questions... Ditto
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:19 PM
( permalink)
Kathy, when I had my Tisbe culture going, they really thrived when I would give them a little skimmate. They love the stuff.
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:19 PM
( permalink)
Did Chris and Barb get in? They were asking me about it last night.
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:20 PM
( permalink)
Joe and Jim: I honestly didn't count you guys (since I don't have to send you all starters). I set the cutoff at 15 and we're at 17 now. No worries. Kathy: I had replied to your PM but we should talk here, too. Let's start with the O. marina: What are you feeding them? They like oily food. Nanno is not going to cut it. They are more likely to do well on the enrichment feeds that you give rots than on what you are feeding the rots. Otherwise, how are your running your cultures? M. salina did fantastically for me for 6 weeks then dwindled to nothing over about 5 days, so I could use some direction there, too.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:22 PM
( permalink)
Tal: List is here. It doesn't look like it. They can follow along and read what we are up to and we can start a new one once this one is done. Heck, if they have questions, I'm sure we'll all try to help them in the forums.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:28 PM
( permalink)
where do we get the o marina?
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:31 PM
( permalink)
On your front porch as soon as I send you some. I don't think there's a commercial supplier out there other than the U. Texas Phyto Labs. Mine just showed up in my rot buckets, but there's supposed to be a professor here in town that study them.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:54 AM
( permalink)
sooo much to post here he he.... First off... Jim!!! Thank god!! if anyone has better insight into the little guys around here it's Jim... Guy's (and gals) take note... Jim is one of the few of us purists left and he's got waaaaay more experience than I do!! Kathy, The cultures obtained at the workshop were under considerable stress, they showed up a little early and of course we drug them around, do not by any means count a failure on those cultures as yours!! Most of these organisms cana; survive a 48-72 hour starvation period without considerable damage however they do get stressed, this is the battle we plankton geeks face!! focus on the panamenensis!!! it's fun!! but before I can actually give you a species focus I actually need to know what you are trying to observe!! remember the chat about how we throw things willy nilly at larvae? It's not too hard to find the real answer, we merely have to look at the source of the problem. If the problem originates in the tonga region, throwing a temparate species from the pacific coast isnt going to play.... we need to use our brains a bit here and do some research to play match maker
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Saturday, July 30, 2011 1:25 AM
( permalink)
 Originally Posted by THEJRC
First off... Jim!!! Thank god!! if anyone has better insight into the little guys around here it's Jim... Guy's (and gals) take note... Jim is one of the few of us purists left and he's got waaaaay more experience than I do!! I'll only let this stand if it is qualified to address Apocyclops panamensis specifically. I will NOT accept this as an accurate statement of our relative experience with various zooplankters, in general!
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:04 AM
( permalink)
Based upon your previous description of a milky white appearance and that you started yours as a contaminate to your rotifer cultures I wonder if I had some in a bucket of my rots too. I had a bucket that I was maintaining with no aeration and after a couple weeks I began to notice streaks of white stuff in the culture. I would continue to feed the bucket and in a few days it would be gone. I figured it was a bacterial bloom of some sort from not being aerated. Also interesting was that it occurred in the middle area of the buckets, whereas the rotifers congregated mostly along the edges. It happened a few times over a month or so. I may have to try replicate this, but that bucket has long been shutdown now.
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:40 AM
( permalink)
Milky white? It wasn't me that made that description. That sounds like bacteria to me. Try this: Get an LED flashlight and shine it back at yourself through the back of your rotifer culture. You can see all the rotifers. They are big white dots, swirling around. O. marina look just like that, except way, way smaller and way, way more of them. In a good O. marina culture there will be clouds of them--and they swirl like clouds, too--but the clouds eventually resolve themselves so you can see individuals (even to me, with my bifocals). Bacteria, on the other hand, just looks like uniform cloudy water. You never see swirls of motion and it never resolves to individuals (since bacteria are much, much smaller).
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Saturday, July 30, 2011 9:58 AM
( permalink)
I have been reading a ton of pod and culture stuff this week, I didn't mean to list you as providing that description. I read it somewhere but who knows where that was! I am now back to my original thought that it was just bacteria. I didn't see any movement and it definitely didn't break apart or separate in any way. Thanks for the reply, I had thought I got lucky!
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Sunday, July 31, 2011 1:29 AM
( permalink)
 Originally Posted by Umm_fish?
On your front porch as soon as I send you some. I would need a starter culture of it as well. Can I just feed nano and tet to them? My Iso is green, and I'm going to order another dish from florida aqua farm and try to start it again.
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:05 AM
( permalink)
I've heard from others, and it has been my experience, that Iso cannot be grown from a FAF dish. Nanno yes, Iso no.
|
|
Re:Welcome to the last enrollees!
Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:25 AM
( permalink)
^That's my experience as well. I assume that you could feed them nanno and tet. I just don't know if they'll thrive into dense cultures on it. As we get closer to shipping, I'll start a thread for people to post in who want starters. I think I've lined up some good, cheap culture shipping containers and they are on the way to me.
--Andy, the bucket man. "Not to know the mandolin is to argue oneself unknown...." --Clara Lanza, 1886
|
|
|