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  Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 22 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version Author Message Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Help - What to do now? Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:36 AM (permalink) 0 Was not expecting this!  Just as I was about to take the dogs for a walk I seen some little green sacks on the glass near the anemone,  with the male clown blowing and fanning these sacks.  YES!  My first batch of eggs.  So, now what?   I'm thinking this is day one, but I'm not absolute.  I have three A. Ocellaris in the tank, along with some soft coral, an angle fish, some sea urchins and other shells.   I can clearly see who the male clown is.  The eggs are somewhat of a green shade, with a black dot.  All I've read is that they're to be yellow or orange?  Is there time to try and get the rotifers going?   I live in Okinawa, Japan, and I can get a kit of rotifers in two days.  I have ocean water right down the street, so I was thinking of getting water at night, while shinning a flash light in the water (thus getting the plankton).  Any suggestions or options I might have?  Thanks in advance.     #1 JimWelsh Total Posts : 1426 Scores: 14 Reward points : 1486 Joined: 1/22/2010 Location: Angwin, CA, US Status: offline MBI: 1845 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:56 PM (permalink) 0 Yes, get rotifers going IMMEDIATELY.   #2 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Help - What to do now? Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:55 PM (permalink) 0 Freshly laid clownfish eggs are yellow, orange or red. After a few days they will darken to almost a black color. A day, or two before they are ready to hatch the eggs will appear silver. The silver coloration is actually light reflecting from their eyes. Do you have any pics?   What size tank is this? Keeping three clowns together can be problematic and one will usually get picked on, or worse.   As Jim said, I would get a culture of rotifers going. I'd avoid natural seawater unless you can be sure it is clean. It's hard to be sure you're not getting bad plankton along with the good. There may also be contaminants/pollutants in water that is near the shore.   Since you're in Japan you should have access to Otohime, a high quality fish food that comes in different sizes that you can use to transition your larvae off rotifers.   One last thing, if this is your pairs first spawn don't be too surprised if the eggs get eaten. It often takes a pair several tries to get the hang of taking care of the eggs. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #3 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Monday, May 27, 2013 5:18 AM (permalink) 0 Thank you for the words.  I will try to post a picture of the eggs.  Again, I THINK they were dropped on 5/26/2013...but I cannot be for certain.  It will take a couple days for the rotifer mix to get her from Tokyo.  I'm afraid if it's too late then it will be a waste of $ for me.  I've got TWO kids in college in the states, so cash is tight for me...thus the free water from the ocean.  The eggs are in a RedSea Max, about 30 gallons.  It has a few other fish, urchins and such.  I'm afraid something will try and eat the eggs, and there's not a lot the clowns can do against an urchin.    #4 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Monday, May 27, 2013 6:00 AM (permalink) 0 This is day 2 of the eggs:   #5 Lrood Total Posts : 370 Scores: -1 Reward points : 880 Joined: 1/14/2012 Location: Zionsville, IN, US Status: offline MBI: 665 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Monday, May 27, 2013 10:37 AM (permalink) 0 Good looking nest for their first spawning! Mine laid only about 20 or so scattered on their first attempt. I'm no expert on this, but if you try wild caught plankton, make sure you sieve out only the correct size for your new larvae, or else there could be some unwanted things collected that may actually eat your baby clowns. Good luck!   #6 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:42 AM (permalink) 0 Update:  Day 3 and things "might" have taken a turn for the worse:-(( The white dots on the eggs yesterday are gone.  The male is still fanning the eggs, but something changed last night.  I checked the floss filter and didn't see anything that would leave me to believe they hatched.  ?   #7 luis a m Total Posts : 451 Scores: 2 Reward points : 1249 Joined: 3/15/2011 Location: Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, AR Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:41 PM (permalink) 0 I see embryos devloping there... And the eggs are indeed green!I thought the glass was stained by algae...Very unusual,you must have some odd ocellaris form.   #8 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Wednesday, May 29, 2013 4:53 AM (permalink) 0 Another question for the experts:  Would it be good to remove the eggs with a razor now, and put in another tank, or wait for them to hatch and use the light and cup method to transfer them to another tank?  I have a blue angle in the tank now, and thus far he hasn't bothered the eggs.  I have a moon light going, so once they hatch, I'm gusssing the other fish will have a chance to eat them before I can get to them.  Suggestions/comments welcome.  Thanks,   r/   #9 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Help - What to do now? Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:43 PM (permalink) 0 I'd leave the eggs with the parents, they will protect them until they hatch. After the eggs hatch you will need to get the fry out ASAP or they will get eaten. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #10 JimWelsh Total Posts : 1426 Scores: 14 Reward points : 1486 Joined: 1/22/2010 Location: Angwin, CA, US Status: offline MBI: 1845 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:46 PM (permalink) 0 They should turn silver just before they hatch.  The night you expect the hatch, turn all pumps & powerheads off, as well as the moonlight, at "lights off", and after about 1/2 hour to 1 hour start with the light and cup trick.   #11 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:11 AM (permalink) 0 Greetings to all!  Just a few more questions I'd like to ask, and get some confirmation.  I'm starting to get lost in translation with Tokyo, and wanted to be sure I understand the procedures exactly.  My rotifer kit will arrive tomorrow morning, and I should be up and running by Sunday if I understood everything correctly: - Start the rotifers, feed them with some green stuff for two days, then take some rotifers out of bucket "A" and place into bucket "B" and add some nutrients for 6 hours then feed to baby clowns. Sound about right?  Not sure what a rotifer looks like and how much too feed, but I'll give it a WAG. - On hatch night, shut off all pumps and lights and after 30 minutes shine a light in a corner of the tank and hopefully all these little fry will appear.  Scoop up with a cup and place into the rearing tank.  My rearing tank is about 10 gallons.  When should I put the water from my main tank into the rearing tank...about the same time as I pull the fry out?  How much of the 10 gallon tank should I fill?  - I blackened out 3 sides of the rearing tank; added 2 bubble wands and small light.  Should I cover the front part and how long are the lights to stay on? Should I damping the light with a paper towel? - Feed the babies the rotifers right away.  Should I feed again in the AM, noon then 6PM? - How often should I change the rearing tank water, and how much? - Rotifiers  will be fed from day one, to day 10.  Start hatching the brine at day 2 and feed on day 3 or 4, correct? I hope I'm not overly optimistic about my first  batch,  but things are going very much according to plan thus far.  Thanks in advance for confirming the above, or any tips you might have for me.       #12 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Help - What to do now? Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:57 PM (permalink) 0 I only need to add rotifers once when using RotiGreen. They will keep reproducing faster than they can be eaten unless you have a lot of larvae, then you might need to add more. Take a look a other journals and this site: http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!hatching-and-rearing/c1s29 for more detailed info. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #13 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Friday, May 31, 2013 5:24 AM (permalink) 0 Is it possible this is "THE NIGHT"?  I'd say 10% of the eggs have the silver dot right now.  It's 6PM and the rotifers are ready.  If someone could respond the the above questions, I'd much appriciate it.  Finally, is it possible or even likely a few might hatch when lights off tonight, then the rest tomorrow night?  Here's latest photo as of a few minutes ago:   #14 Fishtal Total Posts : 5467 Scores: 37 Reward points : 2908 Joined: 8/31/2006 Location: Waterford, MI, US Status: offline MBI: 585 Pnts MBI Site: MarineLife Aquarium Society of Michigan Re:Help - What to do now? Friday, May 31, 2013 11:39 AM (permalink) 0 They look close to hatching. All your questions should be answered if you look at the link I posted above. http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage "Making captive breeding easier."   #15 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:34 AM (permalink) 0 No hatch last night, but maybe tonight.  The male seems to be fanning pretty hard today.  Check out this photo of two clowns I seen today. I didn't even notice the eggs until I came home and downloaded the photos.    #16 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Saturday, June 1, 2013 6:45 AM (permalink) 0 Another photo of the male guarding the eggs today.  I'll be sure to be on the look-out next time I dive there.   #17 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:59 AM (permalink) 0 THEY HATCHED:-))))) Collecting them was much more difficult than expected.  Learned a lot on this attempt, and hopefully I can get them raised.  Going to start the brine shimp program tomorrow, so hopefully that will go smoothly.  Thanks for the tips from the board.   r/ mike     #18 Guerry Total Posts : 41 Scores: 1 Reward points : 246 Joined: 1/25/2012 Location: Fleming, GA, US Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:47 AM (permalink) 0 Congrads, did you use a larvea collector or just siffon them out?   #19 Mikester Total Posts : 46 Scores: 0 Reward points : 197 Joined: 5/26/2013 Location: Okinawa, Okinawa, JP Status: offline MBI: 0 Pnts MBI Site: Marine Breeding Initiative (MBI) Re:Help - What to do now? Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:30 PM (permalink) 0 Used a cup at first, then siphoned.  Unfortunately, many did not make it through the night.   #20 Online Bookmarks Sharing: Facebook Digg Google del.icio.us StumbleUpon Change Page: 12 > | Showing page 1 of 2, messages 1 to 20 of 22 - powered by ASPPlayground.NET Forum Trial Version

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