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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:26 AM
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hey shannpeach, just thought I'd let you know... my shrimp just released her larvae!  I ended up netting most out, just because my Banggai thought it was a feast!(and the snagger was too slow in order to catch them before she did! lol.... Let's see how this goes now!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Wednesday, August 14, 2013 6:57 PM
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So these guys have been going about their business despite quite a bit of neglect from me. They have all had several egg clutches since I got them, but lately I haven't been feeding as much and they have very few eggs, if any. I plan to up the food again and to start collecting larvae once I get some new lights for my larval snagger (which should be delivered in the next week). Here are some pics of them carrying eggs since they've been in the tank:  
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:49 PM
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 Nice, what's the furthest you've gotten the babies along?
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:55 PM
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I haven't really made a serious effort yet. I've pretty much just dropped them in a container a couple times and tossed a few bbs at them. I plan to make a more serious attempt once the adults are in better spawning condition again, hopefully in the next couple weeks
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:36 PM
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ok cool, well I am giving them a go and keep loosing them at 10dph or so.... so maybe you'll have better luck! I'll keep watching your posts.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Monday, September 2, 2013 9:00 AM
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So, I was collecting some Clibanarius tricolor larvae and was getting them all set up in a water pitcher for a rather lazy attempt at rearing, and I realized that I had ONE, just ONE, peppermint larva in with them. I had thought my shrimp I saw carrying eggs a week+ ago would have hatched by now, but I only caught this single one. I realized that although I have collected these larvae before, I don't think I posted any pics. So I threw the one I had under the microscope for a couple pics, and then put it back in the water pitcher. Right now there are L strain rots, live phyto, nhbbs, and apocyclops panamensis in there with it (in addition to lots and lots of clibanarius larvae).  
<message edited by shannpeach on Monday, September 23, 2013 12:00 PM>
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:56 AM
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So I finally got a decent hatch last night. I collected this morning out of the Vossen snagger and put them the 3 (4?) gallon fish bowl orb, but only about half filled with broodstock tank water. I added some chaetoceros, and some nhbbs that I had sitting in the fridge already. I also added in a few rotifers, but hardly any at all.
Some M. forceps also hatched last night. It didn't seem like very many, but I didn't have time to really count/get a good estimate. They were thrown in with the peppermint shrimp also.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:08 PM
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Day 6 and they got a 50% water change and bottom siphon. A quick peek under the scope suggests zoea III for them. I saw one chowing on a golden pearls ball so at least now I know that they have been eating some of those.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Friday, September 20, 2013 10:27 AM
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Last night they got a ~30% water change/bottom siphon and I pulled a couple to take some pics. Most are at Zoea IV, I believe, which is when I think they get their spear legs. A few are still in Zoea III. I tried to get pics of each stage, but the problem is that they are getting to big to easily take microscope pics! In any case, here is what I have: Day 8, Zoea III:   I wasn't able to get any good shots of the telson  Day 8, Zoea IV: Googly eyes!   It's possible I mixed a couple pictures up since they were both on the same slide when I was looking at them and photobucket often doesn't upload them in the order they were taken. The last couple days I have been feeding Formula Two flake (crushed between my fingers) and last night I tried some Golden Pearls 300-500uM and although a couple were chowing on them, I think they are a bit too bulky yet. So this morning I gave them some of the 200-300uM instead since I didn't have any nhbbs ready.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Friday, September 20, 2013 8:56 PM
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Looking good. Love the pic of the wild eye stalks.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Monday, September 23, 2013 9:55 AM
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Still have larvae from the last hatch which are at day 12 today. Some days I don't have as many artemia available as I would like and I have to rely more heavily on flake and golden pearls, but so far it has seemed alright since there are still quite a few cruising around.
This morning I had a whopping big hatch. It looked like a bazillion at first (estimated, of course). I decided this time to put them in a BRT (17 gallon) since there were so many and because I really need to stop culturing these things on my kitchen counter top. I had planned to very carefully, very gracefully move the larvae from the 2.5 gallon bucket I had siphoned them into over to the BRT but it went more like THWACK-THUMP-SPLASH-WHOOSH-@&*^$&#! as I knocked the bucket on the rim of the BRT, dropped it into the tub, some of the water splashed over the top of the bucket into the BRT and onto the floor, and then the bucket dumped over in a tidal wave of broodstock water, peppermint larvae, and curses into the BRT. So...not off to the best start. I added some nhbbs but not as many as I would have liked (I don't think I did a great job decapping this last time--perhaps went too long--and only like half of the brine seem to hatch lately. I will have to decap a new batch tonight). They have a heater and an airstone this time instead of the room temp and rigid airline tubing that I am using for the older batch.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Thursday, October 3, 2013 8:30 AM
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Still have some of the older batch cruising around. Last night I put one under the microscope and got this picture:  Based on Luis A M's thread on the stages of the peppermint shrimp (on reefcentral) I think they are in Z8...today they may be Z9 if they molted last night. I will probably check again tonight. I still have lots and lots of the younger batch that is in the heated BRT that are at day 11 and I think Z5 although I haven't really looked at them too closely.  The BRT probably only has about 9 gallons of water, but now that they are old enough and I don't have to keep the density of bbs quite so high, I can add more water.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Monday, October 7, 2013 10:45 AM
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Day 26 for the older batch and looking in the bowl this morning, it looks like I have at least a couple that are Z10 (based on A1 and A2 being nearly the same length, I haven't looked at them under the microscope). I definitely saw some molts floating around also, so it looks like there was a change in stages last night. They can swim surprisingly well which has made it difficult to capture one to put under the microscope. A turkey baster doesn't work anymore and neither did a small measuring cup. I didn't try too long at the time though. I may just leave them be. I have been doing 1 gallon water changes (out of about 3 gallons total) every other day for the last several days. They mainly get bbs (unfortunately, not older ones, still nhbbs or just a few days old brine) and Golden Pearls (which they really seem to like).
The younger batch is on day 15 and looking good as far as I can tell. I did the first bottom siphon/true water change this weekend. Took one gallon out and put one back in. They get the same fare as the older ones, but I don't feed GP quite as often (so I can be lazier about the water changes). They are cruising around in about 12 gallons of water at this point, and there are still a whole bunch alive.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Thursday, October 17, 2013 8:20 AM
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Update on these guys. I have two batches going, one at day 25 (as of today) and one at day 36 (as of today). I've been watching the older ones in the fish bowl orb closely since they *should* be settling any day now. However, last week I had turned the air up slightly and some ended up damaging their spear legs. I turned it back down, but I am guessing that settlement may be delayed until they get those spear legs back. I checked the BRT last night after I got home and much to my surprise I found at least three of these:   Sorry the pics aren't the best, but the angle, the reflection from the light, and the fact that I used my phone to take the pics made it rather difficult to get a good shot! The younger batch has settled shrimp already!  I saw them on day 24, so the night of day 23 they molted to shrimp. Crazy! It's possible that the older has some settled shrimp; the sides of the fish bowl are pretty gunked up with algae so I can't really see much in there. I did see a molt this morning, so I am hoping at least one in that bowl settled last night.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:13 PM
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Monday, October 28, 2013 12:30 PM
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It looks like all the larva have finally settled. I collected about 30 from the fish bowl orb and moved them to a large mesh breeder basket that hangs in another tank so I can finally take that bowl off my kitchen counter top...   I haven't collected any larvae in a long time and I am beginning to suspect that I keep seeing the same, single shrimp...I plan to purchase another group of four, put one in with the current adult I have and the other three in another tank.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Monday, November 11, 2013 9:07 AM
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Four more adult shrimp purchased and added to the broodstock tank. Also gave this tank a nice size water changes. I haven't seen of the the shrimp since I added them...but I am hoping that they are doing fine. None of them had eggs so I probably won't put in/start up the larval snagger until a week or so after I see a molt floating around in the tank.
The juveniles seem to be doing well. Some are shockingly large. I can't believe how quickly they grow! Most of them are still in with the Lysmata debelius pair...I may try to snag some out just in case the fire shrimp pair decides to turn murderous and kill all the juveniles.
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Monday, December 2, 2013 11:30 AM
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This weekend I saw that one of the "baby" pepps was holding eggs! They aren't even 60 DPS yet! I will try to snag it and get some pics of it. It's a small clutch of eggs, but still pretty impressive considering its young age. I also had to do a tank swap/transfer that the adult "broodstock" are in (the previous cube developed a slow leak so I replaced it with a new cube this weekend) and there are still four alive in there and two of those four had eggs (one had a HUGE batch of eggs) so I will definitely be keeping the snagger running in there to catch the larvae
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Monday, December 2, 2013 3:34 PM
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nice... that's crazy how young they are reproductively mature!
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Re: Breeding Journal, Species: Lysmata boggessi
Monday, December 2, 2013 8:57 PM
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This isn't the one that I originally spotted, but I found this one while moving some to a new growout set up. 
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